Miley's Replacement

[SeSaSe]

http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/archive/2009/01/28/who-will-disney-s-next-tween-queen-be.aspx


Which "Princess Protection Program" star will be Disney's new tween queen ?

As the Mouse works to maintain its "Hannah Montana" franchise, Jim Hill wonders who Disney will choose as Miley Cyrus' successor

So what exactly is the deal with “Hannah Montana” ? Back in July of last year, Miley Cyrus made numerous Mouse House executives reach for their Mylanta when – as she was speaking with E! Entertainment – this tween sensation mentioned that the third season of this Disney Channel smash might be its last.

Rich Ross, president of Disney Channel Worldwide, was quick to dispute Miley’s claim. Pointing out that there was actually an option in Cyrus’ contract that allowed Mickey to order up a fourth season of “Hannah Montana.” And given the enormous amount of money that the Mouse was making off of Miley, Mickey was definitely planning on exercising that option.

But then – last month – the Mouse House suddenly indicated that it might be softening its stance on Season 4. You see, just as they did back in Season 2, the Disney Channel ordered up additional episodes of “Hannah Montana”. 6 more to be exact. Which would then bring the total number of episodes produced for Season 3 up to 30.

Which -- if you were to combine the 26 episodes of “Hannah Montana” that were shot in Season 1 with the 60 shows that were / will be produced for Season 2 & 3 … Well, that would then bring the total number of “Hannah Montanas” up to 86. Which then puts this show within spitting distance of 100 episodes. Which is the number that the Disney ABC Television Group feels it needs in order to get the best possible price for “Hannah Montana” ‘s syndication rights. When and if they actually make this show available to secondary markets.

Anyway … That’s the scuttlebutt that’s currently making the rounds at the Mouse House. If Miley agrees to come back to shoot a foreshortened fourth season of “Hannah Montana” (i.e. just 14 shows. Which will then allow the Disney ABC Television Group to have 100 episodes of this tween sitcom in the hopper), Cyrus will then be allowed to concentrate on launching her film career. Which – if Mickey has his way – will feature a steady stream to sequels to “Hannah Montana: The Movie.”

But if the Disney Channel is going to lose its tween queen to the big screen come 2010, who’s then going to step in and claim Cyrus’ crown? There are two strong candidates right now: Selena Gomez and Demi Lovato.

Right now, Selena seems to have the inside track. Her Disney Channel series – “Wizards of Waverly Place” – regularly places in the Top 10 for cable television series. And the folks at Disney Consumer Products obviously think highly of Ms. Gomez. Given that they flew this 16-year-old down to WDW’s Contemporary Resort last November. Where Selena then took part in a live question-and-answer session in front of 400 licensees at DCP’s North America Sales Meeting.

But then again it’s not a wise move to discount Ms. Lovato. Ever since Demi made her Disney Channel debut in “Camp Rock” back in June of 2008, Mouse House managers have been impressed with how quickly this 16-year-old has connected with tweens. Her Hollywood Records album, “Don't Forget,” debuted at #2 on the Billboard charts back in September. And all summer long, Ms. Lovato and the Jonas Brothers sold out huge venues across the country as part of their “Burnin' Up” tour.

So now the big question now is … Is Demi ready for sitcom stardom? Her new series, “Sonny with a Chance,” premieres on the Disney Channel on Sunday, February 8th. And later this year, Ms. Lovato & the Jonases will head back to the woods to shoot “Camp Rock 2.”

So who’s Mickey going to pick to be Miley’s successor? Actually, the Mouse seems to be trying a two-heads-are-better-than-one approach. Given that – this June – Selena and Demi will be co-starring in a Disney Channel Original Movie, “Princess Protection Program.”

Gomez plays Carter Mason, a typical teenager whose life is turned upside down when her father, Major Mason of the Princess Protection Program (i.e. a fictitious organization that – would you believe it? – actually rescues princesses) brings Princess Rosalinda (played by Ms. Lovato) home to their house in Louisiana. The only way to save Rosalinda’s country (More importantly, her mother. Who stayed behind) is for this pampered princess to go undercover as average American teenager Rosie Gonzales.
Carter’s dad places her in charge of making sure that Rosalinda … er … Rosie fits in. Which gets kind of difficult when both girls are nominated for Homecoming Queen at her high school.

Mouse House managers feel that “Princess Protection Program” (Which – FYI – is the 76th Disney Channel Original Movie produced to date) has the makings of a break-out hit. Which is why this new TV movie will be supported by a full load of merchandise.

Of course, Selena & Demi will still have quite a ways to go before they can equal the amount of merch that Miley has moved. Just last year, the “Hannah Montana” franchise (in combination with “High School Musical”) racked up $2.7 billion in sales. Which was a $400 million increase over what these introduced-on-the-Disney-Channel characters earned back in 2007.

So obviously Ms. Cyrus’ act is going to be a tough one to follow. But even as the Company continues to plan to cash in on Miley (Disney Hyperion officials anticipates that her book, ‘Miles to Go’ – which will be released to stores on March 10th – will outsell last year’s bestseller for this division at Disney. Which was “Burning Up: On Tour with the Jonas Brothers ”), the folks at Disney Consumer Products know that Hannah Montana will eventually fall out of favor with tweens.

You see, when it comes to Disney’s TV-based brands, there are three stages of life: launch, build and sustain. And right now, the “Hannah Montana” franchise is in sustain mode. Which is the Mouse is already scanning the horizon, wondering who they can build into their next Miley.
So what do you folks think? Which member of the “Princess Protection Program” cast is ultimately going to claim Cyrus’ crown?

Published Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:00 AM

[Nelliephant]

Thanks for posting.
Of course people, myself included, will say 'of course no one can replace Miley' but I get what they mean, and I think the next Disney queen could be anyone, but to be honest it feels like Selena's missed the boat there, so I think it's more likely it'll be Demi. But that's just me, and by the time Miley leaves DC, I'm not sure i'll particularly care anymore who's next.

[ashley rocks my socks (miley too)]

^I agree
Thanks for posting

[SeSaSe]

I don't believe anyone can replace her. The article more or less points out Disney's problem. Getting someone or something as popular as Miley.

[MileyIsAnAngel]

seen and heard this for a year now.

what have they done? nothing.

[Nelliephant]

Yes but they do have to find someone to become the next face of Disney. I'm not saying they'll find another Miley, because they never will, and they'll probably find someone that stands out like Miley did in another 5-7 years or something, but until then they just need someone popular enough to be the face of Disney Channel. For all we know they could make it the Jonas Brothers (if they're up for that), and whether you like them or not, it would be a nice change to have guys be the big ones on Disney, but out of Selena and Demi, I still say Demi because she's about to get her own show that is almost certainly going to do well, whereas WOWP might be good, but it's always been second in command to HM really.

[mileyrulz]

lol These articles make me laugh.

[Nelliephant]

seen and heard this for a year now.

what have they done? nothing.

Camp Rock? That was their last 'next big thing' idea, and yes it was sucessful but it still wasn't the next HSM. The reason they haven't done as much as we thought yet is because High School Musical 3 only just came out, and they're carrying it on with a new cast which might (but i don't think will) work. So now, while HM is still going, they'll be really keen to finally get it right with the next big thing, and from the sound of it, they're planning for that to be PPP.

[strawberrymilktealove]

nah i don't think selena demi or the jb would be the ones... i feel they're at their climax now, and they're kinda sharing it with miley, although they're kinda still in her shadows. and by the time miley leaves disney, selena demi and jb would very much be over as well, since they would have been around for quite some time. if ever disney were to find someone else to front them, i think it would have to be someone else, totally out of the shadows.

[MileyIsAnAngel]

i'm not talking about camp rock. WOWP is failing. demi just isn't doing anything with her music career. for a while there, disney was pushing those girls..but..nothing. miley's still on top and is gaining more fans than ever.

[Nelliephant]

I thought WOWP was doing pretty well in the ratings, actually. And of course now they're making the DCOM.
Isn't Demi busy filming SWAC at the moment, so she can't do much in terms of her music right now.
Plus I bet in the coming months they're going to promote the heck out of PPP, plus they keep showing the La La Land mv on Disney.
I think they may have resigned themselves to the fact that pretty much just Miley and HSM are really mainstream, the JB's do have a lot of younger fans that make them so successful, but both Demi and Selena are really just popular with the target audience for DC, whereas Miley seems to be gaining lots of older fans as she goes. But that doesn't mean Disney aren't still going to try and make one of their acts as popular as possible with people that watch the Disney Channel
I think both Demi and Selena will stay with Disney for a while yet, but strawberrymilktealove, you've got a point, it could be someone totally new.

[jeff999]

They can't replace Miley and it won't be with the people mentioned. In a year or so they may find a younger person to be a star again (i.e. Hilary Duff and Miley Cyrus) as Disney knows they way to get a long term star is to start at 12-13 years old not 16 and less talented.

[Father Time]

[URL]. . . who (will) Disney will choose as Miley Cyrus' successor? . . .

The short answer is: There is no replacement. There really hasn’t been anything like the HM phenomenon before this, and there may never be anything quite like it again . . .

This was talked about briefly in the SHE DOES LOOK AT FANSITES!!thread. Like I said there, Disney will go where the $$ is (obvious), and the Hannah merchandising machine is winding down. Everywhere we look around our area, the HM branded merchandise has no takers, even on the clearance rack. It does remain to be seen if the release of the HM movie this Spring will revive the merchandise side of the coin, but it probably will, especially since they will no-doubt flood the stores with stuff sporting the new-look Hannah from season 3 and the movie. I think it will be short-lived - can’t see this surge in interest having anywhere near the two-year staying power that the TV show enjoyed. So, (like you said) they’re likely going to move on to putting the show into syndication.

Out of the potential queenies you mentioned, Demi probably has the best shot, based on (IMHO): She’s cute, can act, and has a voice that, with some proper training from a real vocal coach, is good enough to consider doing some dedicated albums. But - Disney is hedging their bets on all fronts. Besides those you’ve mentioned, Dadnapped, comes next month, featuring the HM cast minus Miley and Billy Ray.

It’s really going to be up to us, as we’ll be voting through the ratings by what we watch, and by what we spend on the celeb-branded items that are sure to appear . . .

[MileyIsAnAngel]

I thought WOWP was doing pretty well in the ratings, actually. And of course now they're making the DCOM.
Isn't Demi busy filming SWAC at the moment, so she can't do much in terms of her music right now.
Plus I bet in the coming months they're going to promote the heck out of PPP, plus they keep showing the La La Land mv on Disney.
I think they may have resigned themselves to the fact that pretty much just Miley and HSM are really mainstream, the JB's do have a lot of younger fans that make them so successful, but both Demi and Selena are really just popular with the target audience for DC, whereas Miley seems to be gaining lots of older fans as she goes. But that doesn't mean Disney aren't still going to try and make one of their acts as popular as possible with people that watch the Disney Channel
I think both Demi and Selena will stay with Disney for a while yet, but strawberrymilktealove, you've got a point, it could be someone totally new.

i meant failing in terms of being the next HM. sure it's popular, but so it suite life. That doesn't mean it's going to be the next HM. it just means it's not the next "life with derek" or "phil of the future" ;)

demi had her chance to get her music career started. it didn't work out..even with the help (or hurt? haha) from the JB. now they're pushing her to be an actress by giving her another shot with her new show. well, she's definately not an actress. and her new show looks pathetic. it just looks so childish and cheesy. just a bunch of gimics.

i honestly think it'll be someone new..in a few years. i don't see selena or demi becoming a mainstream sensation like miley.

[flutesinger262]

I think Selena has had her chance and it didn't happened.
Demi still has time but it hasn't happened with her etheir(her album sales are pretty bad) and Sonny with a Chance doesn't look very promising.

honestly, I don't think ethier of those girls will be the new face of disney. there will never be someone who comes close to what Miley is but still the new face of disney is going to be someone younger then Miley not older then her. its going to have to be a 11 or 12 year old girl, just like Miley and just like Hilary.

[SeSaSe]

its going to have to be a 11 or 12 year old girl, just like Miley and just like Hilary.

I agree. I don't like using the term "aging out", but both Selena and Demi are older. Time is short and they do not have the momentum in popularity to carry them to Miley's level.

[dontwalkaway]

disney is screwed after HSM and HM leave sry2say
both demi and selena are gonna be at least 17, probably 18 by the time miley's gone.... no longer relatable enough

[apogeum]

The thing is that before HM and HSM no one was looking for the next "fill in show name here", five years ago people weren't asking who will be the next Lizzie McGuire. Part of their impact was the overnight success, something the other shows can't achieve anymore and something both Demi and Selena can't do anymore. In some aspects Disney wasn't planning very well either, Demi's CD should have come out once she was more of a household name. It would also be quite impossible to come up with a show concept with as big a merchandising potential.

[Lynnaque]

demi and selena are too old. i'd like them both to diaf but whatevs, point is they're miley's age and little kids won't love adults the same way.

[HannahMontana_9]

It probably will be Demi.
But I doubt anyone can be as popular as miley.

[love123]

nah.. no nobody in Disney is going to replace "Miley".
remember how people were like Selena is the new miley cus of her new show and demi was the new miley cus of camprock. but yeah.... they didnt.
Miley is like .. waay to popular.
Selena have a popular show too but i dont think it can compare to HM
Demi have her album, but it didnt go to #1, her shows.. idk..yet, and camprock wasnt a very good movie, ppl gave terrible review. Demi should just sing but stupid disney push her into acting.
like selena... she's a rreeeally good actress and she shouldnt be singing or making a band.

Miley can sing, write, dance and act.
selena can act.
Demi can sing, and well.. not really with the song writing, the jb help her with the song on her album.

[flutesinger262]

The thing is that before HM and HSM no one was looking for the next "fill in show name here", five years ago people weren't asking who will be the next Lizzie McGuire. Part of their impact was the overnight success, something the other shows can't achieve anymore and something both Demi and Selena can't do anymore. In some aspects Disney wasn't planning very well either, Demi's CD should have come out once she was more of a household name. It would also be quite impossible to come up with a show concept with as big a merchandising potential.


I also agree with that. I know Miley says this all the time, but shes right part of what has made all of this so special is that none of it was planned, none of it was expected. they didn't go into it saying Miley would be the next Hilary. It just happened. Its the same with HSM. Thats why I say Selena's time has come and past. Miley was a superstar from the day HM premiered, that didn't happen with Selena and WOWP. Also if you think about it, there will be a 4th season of HM, they're so close to syndication and HM is currently getting higher ratings then ever. Even if WOWP also gets a 3rd season, its probably going to be done the same time HM is. Selena and Miley will probably leave disney right around the same time. Demi's album did pretty bad and thats where she needed to do well, because shes not much of an actress. Camp Rock was suppose to make Demi a superstar and barely anyone paid attention to her in it.

realistically disney's going to have to wait a few years and find a young girl to make the new face of disney, even then they won't come close to what miley is.

also I don't see Miley staying with disney once she goes into movies, she might do a few disney movies but I don't see her working exclusively with disney.

[HannahMontana_9]

nah.. no nobody in Disney is going to replace "Miley".
remember how people were like Selena is the new miley cus of her new show and demi was the new miley cus of camprock. but yeah.... they didnt.
Miley is like .. waay to popular.
Selena have a popular show too but i dont think it can compare to HM
Demi have her album, but it didnt go to #1, her shows.. idk..yet, and camprock wasnt a very good movie, ppl gave terrible review. Demi should just sing but stupid disney push her into acting.
like selena... she's a rreeeally good actress and she shouldnt be singing or making a band.

Miley can sing, write, dance and act.
selena can act.
Demi can sing, and well.. not really with the song writing, the jb help her with the song on her album.
omg so true.
disney is always pushing people to make business.
tbh, in the first season of hm i didnt think miley could act OR sing.
but as it kept going i changed my mind. maybe that will change our
mind about demi when the show starts. (:

[flutesinger262]

The thing people need to remember about Miley is she pretty much flew under the radar until the BOBW tour. HM's was one of the highest rated cable show and Miley sold 6 million albums for a year and a half before the media really took notice.
It hasn't been like that with Demi and Selena. The expectations on them are so much and they're having to do it with the spotlight on them, which makes it even harder.
I feel like after they had hits in HM and HSM disney thought they had figured out a formula and could replicate that success and totally went and messed up the formula in the process

[SmileyMileyRay]

Do I think Selena and Demi could be the next tween queen? Maybe. Doesn't mean they're going to be as big as Miley though...and it will be too forced.

[dontwalkaway]

demi's album didn't tank. it did pretty well, actually. but both demi and selena's shots at superstardom have come and passed and, honestly, neither of them have the charisma or sex appeal to do well after disney, no matter how good demi is at singing or selena is at acting.

[Lynnaque]

The thing people need to remember about Miley is she pretty much flew under the radar until the BOBW tour. HM's was one of the highest rated cable show and Miley sold 6 million albums for a year and a half before the media really took notice.
It hasn't been like that with Demi and Selena. The expectations on them are so much and they're having to do it with the spotlight on them, which makes it even harder.
I feel like after they had hits in HM and HSM disney thought they had figured out a formula and could replicate that success and totally went and messed up the formula in the process

that's a very good point, miley had done the groundwork to go with the hype she then later got. demi and selena not so much.

[flutesinger262]

demi's album didn't tank. it did pretty well, actually. but both demi and selena's shots at superstardom have come and passed and, honestly, neither of them have the charisma or sex appeal to do well after disney, no matter how good demi is at singing or selena is at acting.

Demi's album debuted at number 2(in a weak week) but it tanked after that. I don't even think its going to sell 500,000 copies. So it did tank if you think about what they were expecting it to do.

I don't think its has anything to do with Sex appeal, you can be a big star without it(miley for the most part has, this board excluded no one looks at her that way) , what they don't have is that it factor. Niether of them could have done what Miley did at the inauguration. Miley stood there in a ball gown and was still able to command the attention of an entire arena. They just don't have that special something

[Lynnaque]

Demi's album debuted at number 2(in a weak week) but it tanked after that. I don't even think its going to sell 500,000 copies. So it did tank if you think about what they were expecting it to do.

I don't think its has anything to do with Sex appeal, you can be a big star without it(miley for the most part has, this board excluded no one looks at her that way) , what they don't have is that it factor. Niether of them could have done what Miley did at the inauguration. Miley stood there in a ball gown and was still able to command the attention of an entire arena. They just don't have that special something

LOL you'd be surprised. but i do agree about the it-factor star power thing. it's pretty incredible. but i definately think it's going to help her that she does have sex appeal.

[flutesinger262]

that's a very good point, miley had done the groundwork to go with the hype she then later got. demi and selena not so much.

thats exactly it. Haters love to same Miley is totally over hyped but shes not and never has been. A lot of hype surrounds her but its well deserved and its because of what shes already done not because of what people think she will do. I don't know if it was because she was so young or because it was just a different then it is now but she managed to completely fly under the media's radar for almost 2 years. You think about the hype around the JB's in the last year, that didn't happen to Miley when she was first starting out even though she was more successful.

[dontwalkaway]

i'm approaching this at a completely unbiased angle, and you don't need to have sex appeal but it is a definite bonus. i mean, think of all the young female celebrities and every single one of them is at least rather pretty. and if you're gonna play the lead female role in a movie you are almost guarenteed to need some sort of sexual vibes.

and you'd be surprised, flute... there's a facebook group called "i watch hannah montana because miley cyrus is hot"
and i didn't start it nor am i in it haha

the it factor is more important, though, which miley has in copious amounts and selena/demi are lacking in (and before someone comes in and yells at me, i don't really dislike either of them)...

[flutesinger262]

LOL you'd be surprised. but i do agree about the it-factor star power thing. it's pretty incredible. but i definately think it's going to help her that she does have sex appeal.
no I wouldn't, lol. I've been all over the net, there are a few pervs on other sites but other then here(and i know most people are just messing around) no one sees her as having sex appeal, some people look at her in a sexual manner but that stems from wanting to see her crash and burn, none of them are appealed to her in that way(and lets be honest, they shouldn't be shes 16 years old).
Britney, Christina they had sex appeal, Miley doesn't.

[MileyIsAnAngel]

i agree with victoria. whether disney or anyone else admits it or not, sex appeal DOES effect the success or failure of the "next big thing". look at hilary duff or lindsay lohan. they're the more recent "crop". look at shia. in the past? justin timberlake. britney spears. christina agu-whateverhernameis. they all have sex appeal. and miley does too. but it's not in a blatent manner. she's more of a "quiet sexy". the way she carries herself really oozes confidence. and that, to some people, is sexy and appealing.

selena and demi? not so much. selena maybe more than demi, but not enough to really make an impact.

[Lynnaque]

thats exactly it. Haters love to same Miley is totally over hyped but shes not and never has been. A lot of hype surrounds her but its well deserved and its because of what shes already done not because of what people think she will do. I don't know if it was because she was so young or because it was just a different then it is now but she managed to completely fly under the media's radar for almost 2 years. You think about the hype around the JB's in the last year, that didn't happen to Miley when she was first starting out even though she was more successful.

i guess people just didn't realize that a disney kid could make such an impact, and dismissed it as a kid thing at first. then when people had to care, they just assumed the same thing wokd happen to any disney kid with a modicrum of success. fail, media.

[dontwalkaway]

i don't know who you're talking to, but every single one of my guy friends would chop of their left hand to have sex with her (not trying to be crude, it's true)

[flutesinger262]

i'm approaching this at a completely unbiased angle, and you don't need to have sex appeal but it is a definite bonus. i mean, think of all the young female celebrities and every single one of them is at least rather pretty. and if you're gonna play the lead female role in a movie you are almost guarenteed to need some sort of sexual vibes.

and you'd be surprised, flute... there's a facebook group called "i watch hannah montana because miley cyrus is hot"
and i didn't start it nor am i in it haha

the it factor is more important, though, which miley has in copious amounts and selena/demi are lacking in (and before someone comes in and yells at me, i don't really dislike either of them)...
I see far more people think that selena is hot then people think Miley is but I wouldn't say Selena has sex appeal. I don't get it, but believe me people would take Selena over Miley if thats what it came down to looks.

if you have star power and it factor like Miley does then you don't need to have sex appeal. believe me I know this business comes down to looks, not talent but even more important is that it factor

[dontwalkaway]

i still don't know what guys you're talking to cause it is most definitely not like that with anyone i know....

[SmileyMileyRay]

I would say if someone has sex appeal, it's defintely not Selena. She's too "cutesy" for my liking. Miley has a little more than Selena.

[Yero34]

I agree with Victoria and Lindsey. Sex appeal is an important factor in establishing an adult career. Hillary Duff was sexless, LL was for a while, Miley is not sexless. I'm not being crude, but like Lindsey said, the girl is so confidence, that's her sexiness. She doesn't need to take her clothes off to have it. She just does, plus it helps that she has that low voice. Low=seductive depending on the situation. lol. Again, not being crude, but that's the way I see it. Demi and Selena are asexual, especially Selena. And she is definitely not. Very cute, but not hot.

[flutesinger262]

i agree with victoria. whether disney or anyone else admits it or not, sex appeal DOES effect the success or failure of the "next big thing". look at hilary duff or lindsay lohan. they're the more recent "crop". look at shia. in the past? justin timberlake. britney spears. christina agu-whateverhernameis. they all have sex appeal. and miley does too. but it's not in a blatent manner. she's more of a "quiet sexy". the way she carries herself really oozes confidence. and that, to some people, is sexy and appealing.

selena and demi? not so much. selena maybe more than demi, but not enough to really make an impact.
I agree that sex appeal can matter but thus far it hasn't really been a factor with miley. in the last 6 months people have started to look at her a little differently but she had a top rated disney show and sold 8 million albums with out sex appeal factoring in.

and like I said, I don't understand it but most people would take Selena over Miley anyday. IDK, i think a lot of it is because Selena has the exotic Latina look going on but believe me people think shes hotter and prettier then Miley(and I really don't like Selena so its not me trying to defend her, people just are attracted to her lookwise more then Miley). Even though everyone seems to think Selena is much prettier and attractive then Miley is, Selena still isn't half the success that miley has been

[Mr.Smiley]

i wish miley 's idol hilary duff beg back disney work again but don't worry demi's replacement i will watch princess program boo selena shhhhhhhhh

[Lynnaque]

honestly the first thing my friend said when i showed her a miley performance was "that's hot. what a tease", and i've certainly seen my share of internet interest in that regard. if by sex appeal you mean deliberately going for sex appeal then no, she IS disney.

[dontwalkaway]

i don't mean she's LOOK AT ME NAKED EVERYBODY, i mean she naturally has an air of confidence that is, in a word, sexy.
she may still seem like that little girl from season one to you, but the rest of the world is viewing her differently.

[apogeum]

I also agree with that. I know Miley says this all the time, but shes right part of what has made all of this so special is that none of it was planned, none of it was expected. they didn't go into it saying Miley would be the next Hilary. It just happened. Its the same with HSM. Thats why I say Selena's time has come and past. Miley was a superstar from the day HM premiered, that didn't happen with Selena and WOWP. Also if you think about it, there will be a 4th season of HM, they're so close to syndication and HM is currently getting higher ratings then ever. Even if WOWP also gets a 3rd season, its probably going to be done the same time HM is. Selena and Miley will probably leave disney right around the same time. Demi's album did pretty bad and thats where she needed to do well, because shes not much of an actress. Camp Rock was suppose to make Demi a superstar and barely anyone paid attention to her in it.

realistically disney's going to have to wait a few years and find a young girl to make the new face of disney, even then they won't come close to what miley is.

also I don't see Miley staying with disney once she goes into movies, she might do a few disney movies but I don't see her working exclusively with disney.

The thing about Demi debuting at #2 is also that in chart terms it was a slow week, though if they had released it this week she even could have been #1.

I don't actually think Disney is looking for the next Miley; if they find a new star sure they'll launch him/her (most likely her) but it's nothing you can plan on. Sometimes it happens and sometimes it doesn't; who knows Nickelodeon might find the next It girl.

The HM ratings aren't the highest ever though, they're still good but HM is more than just the show. It's a brand, it's much more.

Miley will do Disney movies though but no one can force her to just work for Disney. Sooner or later a project will come along outside of Disney and she'll do that, even if Disney signs a deal like that. It also happened with Lindsay Lohan, they signed a five movie deal but while she was under that deal she also made Mean Girls which obviously isn't Disney. Actors are never really fixed to a specific studio, that's not how the business works. Though some of them just work for the same studios a lot while others never do more than one movie at one studio (which is almost what Hilary Duff has going on).

As to the sex appeal talk that's going on, take one look on forums like Celebutopia and superiorpics and you'll know what people think of Miley.

[Yero34]

Right now, obviously it doesn't matter, but it will in 3 years or so. Nobody likes an asexual robot. When they get into adult roles, they're going to have to be taken seriously. Selena has a pitched voice, and zero sex appeal. She might be a little screwed. Miley oozes confidence and all ready has an older sounding voice, give or take the occasion.

[Lynnaque]

I agree that sex appeal can matter but thus far it hasn't really been a factor with miley. in the last 6 months people have started to look at her a little differently but she had a top rated disney show and sold 8 million albums with out sex appeal factoring in.

and like I said, I don't understand it but most people would take Selena over Miley anyday. IDK, i think a lot of it is because Selena has the exotic Latina look going on but believe me people think shes hotter and prettier then Miley(and I really don't like Selena so its not me trying to defend her, people just are attracted to her lookwise more then Miley). Even though everyone seems to think Selena is much prettier and attractive then Miley is, Selena still isn't half the success that miley has been

oh i agree that the majority of her sales aren't due to sex appeal at all, as tweens don't really care. we're just saying that she has it, which will help her in the future.

and ew, selena looks about 12. and like a china doll. i think of her as a child much more than miley.

[flutesinger262]

I don't see Miley as a little kid but I also don't get any sexual appeal vibes. When I think of teenagers with Sexual appeal I think of Britney and Christina and Miley isn't Britney and Christina.

also were talking about to different things. you guys are talking about longevity. this thread is talking about becoming at the next big thing. Miley was 12 when she started HM, do you think back then she had sex appeal? She was 12-14 years old when she started becoming a superstar, and she didn't do that on any kind of sex appeal. Everyone knows that Selena and Demi won't have Miley's longevity but thats not what were talking about. You do not need sex appeal to become a disney superstar.

[dontwalkaway]

yeah i don't mean sex appeal has helped her now, but it bodes well for her future
and i don't know a single person who is attracted to selena. i know like two guys who think she's pretty but nothing more.
she looks like a little girl waaaay more than miley does

[Yero34]

Selena looks like a China doll and that freaks me out. She is cute, but she's not hot.

Disney should just wait until they get a cute little 12 year old on the canvas, and then see what happens. These things always come when you least expect them.

[flutesinger262]

oh i agree that the majority of her sales aren't due to sex appeal at all, as tweens don't really care. we're just saying that she has it, which will help her in the future.

and ew, selena looks about 12. and like a china doll. i think of her as a child much more than miley.
I really don't get it either. I see why people think Selena's pretty but I don't get the hot factor. Selena looks about 12, without make up Miley doesn't look 16 either but its not as bad as with Selena. Yet everywhere i go on the net people think Selena is drop dead gorgeous.

[Yero34]

Me neither. My buddies don't get it either, and we're all 18+. My male buddies would give their left arms to even get within spitting distance of Miley though. lol. Except one guy is 25, and I'm all "Dude, no."

[flutesinger262]

about the Miley staying with Disney thing and doing disney movies after Hm. That is really going to depend on disney. if they try and get her to do tweeny bopper movies(Like what Hilary did) then they're going to lose her. The way I've heard Miley talk the last thing she wants to do is another tweeny bopper movie(Or show or anything like that) after HM. She keeps saying that she wants to do serious projects and movies that really matter. If disney lets her do that then I think it will be fine, I'm just not sure if thats gonna happen.

[Lynnaque]

I really don't get it either. I see why people think Selena's pretty but I don't get the hot factor. Selena looks about 12, without make up Miley doesn't look 16 either but its not as bad as with Selena. Yet everywhere i go on the net people think Selena is drop dead gorgeous.

i know a lot of people find her prettier than miley, but most people i've seen and the blogs never call her sexy or the like, like they do with miley. they're always calling her beautiful and cute and such, nothing that implies sex appeal.

but yeah, everything about selena is just so bland, even her beauty.

[apogeum]

As said before; Disney most certainly doesn't cast on sex appeal, they cast on star appeal. There are a lot of good looking people out there, if it were that easy there would be lots of stars.

Being a fan of someone just because of their looks is an odd concept to me anyway. Go read Playboy if that's all what it's about ;).

[flutesinger262]

i know a lot of people find her prettier than miley, but most people i've seen and the blogs never call her sexy or the like, like they do with miley. they're always calling her beautiful and cute and such, nothing that implies sex appeal.

but yeah, everything about selena is just so bland, even her beauty.
the only blog I've ever seen call Miley sexy is Perez and believe me he does not actually mean it nor is he saying that in a good way.

yeah buts its also the same thing with Miley, believe me I get google alerts and its always words like adorable or cute, usually adorable, when it comes to miley

[apogeum]

about the Miley staying with Disney thing and doing disney movies after Hm. That is really going to depend on disney. if they try and get her to do tweeny bopper movies(Like what Hilary did) then they're going to lose her. The way I've heard Miley talk the last thing she wants to do is another tweeny bopper movie(Or show or anything like that) after HM. She keeps saying that she wants to do serious projects and movies that really matter. If disney lets her do that then I think it will be fine, I'm just not sure if thats gonna happen.

I think that the Nicholas Sparks movie won't be quite teenybopper, more chick flick as with his previous movies.

I do think that Miley would be more open to other projects though; just look at Billy Ray, he got started in a David Lynch movie. Hilary's career choices were just far too safe uptil now and she's trying to compensate for it now. War Inc. didn't do it and I somehow can't see her as Bonnie in the Story of Bonnie and Clyde which she was cast for this week.

With Miley I always have the feeling that she already has in her mind what kind of things she wants to do in the next couple of years. She seems to be very aware of what her status in the entertainment industry is and thinks about how she can develop in it.

She could always be in the movie I'm writing which would never get any lower than R-rated as it is now :P.

[Lynnaque]

lol i must walk/read in skeevy circles then.

[Lynnaque]

I think that the Nicholas Sparks movie won't be quite teenybopper, more chick flick as with his previous movies.

I do think that Miley would be more open to other projects though; just look at Billy Ray, he got started in a David Lynch movie. Hilary's career choices were just far too safe uptil now and she's trying to compensate for it now. War Inc. didn't do it and I somehow can't see her as Bonnie in the Story of Bonnie and Clyde which she was cast for this week.

With Miley I always have the feeling that she already has in her mind what kind of things she wants to do in the next couple of years. She seems to be very aware of what her status in the entertainment industry is and thinks about how she can develop in it.

She could always be in the movie I'm writing which would never get any lower than R-rated as it is now :P.

hahahahaha. you're kidding?

[Yero34]

I don't see Miley as wanting to do romantic comedies, not teen ones anyway. For some reason, I can't see her in those types, and I can't see her wanting to do those types.

[apogeum]

hahahahaha. you're kidding?

Nope, Variety reported it.

[flutesinger262]

I think that the Nicholas Sparks movie won't be quite teenybopper, more chick flick as with his previous movies.

I do think that Miley would be more open to other projects though; just look at Billy Ray, he got started in a David Lynch movie. Hilary's career choices were just far too safe uptil now and she's trying to compensate for it now. War Inc. didn't do it and I somehow can't see her as Bonnie in the Story of Bonnie and Clyde which she was cast for this week.

With Miley I always have the feeling that she already has in her mind what kind of things she wants to do in the next couple of years. She seems to be very aware of what her status in the entertainment industry is and thinks about how she can develop in it.

She could always be in the movie I'm writing which would never get any lower than R-rated as it is now :P.
I don't think Miley really realizes how big she is but thats just the impression I get.

anyways, I do think Miley is definitely a lot more open then Hilary is. For the last year I've hear Miley talk about how she wants to do movies and projects that matter, which is a lot more then I could ever say Hilary seemed to want. I also agree Miley already has it in her mind what she wants to do,its just a matter of disney letting her do that. I'm hoping the NS movie is a good sign

As said before; Disney most certainly doesn't cast on sex appeal, they cast on star appeal. There are a lot of good looking people out there, if it were that easy there would be lots of stars.

Being a fan of someone just because of their looks is an odd concept to me anyway. Go read Playboy if that's all what it's about ;).

I've actually had a casting director tell me, you can make someone beautiful, you can teach someone to be a better actor or a better singer but you can't give them the appeal it takes to be a star. He said that the star power is what they look for. they don't look for whose the most talented or the prettiest because none of that matters without that star quality

[swe3t23]

here is my opinion..... NO ONE WILL EVER REPLACE THE success and accomplishments that Miley has made for herself. She is a household name and Selena and Demi aren't. Hannah Montana will have a fourth season with less episodes to make it syndicated which means more money for Miley to make. If i were her i would take that.

As for Selena and Demi... they have missed the boat... Demi can't act, she needs to work on her craft and her shows looks like an Nickelodeon show reject. Selena, well she is a bit annoying in her show but as for her breaking out of Disney, isn't gonna happen. And for her to come out with a cd is a joke because it is so not her style...she can't rock the stage like Miley.

Miley has that everybody's best friend personality. She is a hot commodity every appearance whether it is presenting awards, performing, or showing up at her local mall always stirs up media attention.

You guys are right that Selena and Demi missed the boat. It probably won't be for another couple of years that phenomenon will hit Disney again.

And they are trying to make Wizards a big franchise cus they are coming out with a movie also... which is dumb because no one is interested in Wizards anymore. The Wizards thing is soooo played out... even the Harry Potter franchise is coming to an end also.

[flutesinger262]

And they are trying to make Wizards a big franchise cus they are coming out with a movie also... which is dumb because no one is interested in Wizards anymore. The Wizards thing is soooo played out... even the Harry Potter franchise is coming to an end also.
WOWP movie is a DCOM, which Selena conveniently forgot to tell the media when she announced it. Her publicist quickly issued a statement correcting her though

[Lynnaque]

alex russo is pretty fierce tho. which just makes selena look even more boring in comparison.

lol at selena overselling the movie.

[Yero34]

Lol. I remember that. Did Selena actually say it would be a theatrical release? Don't forget, Selena also got her own production company.;)

I think those girls missed the boat. We've been hearing since last April that they'd be the new thing, and um, they're not.

[SeSaSe]

I believe the difference is that Britney has sex appeal and sells/flaunts it. Miley definitely has sex appeal, but she does not sell/push it.

[flutesinger262]

alex russo is pretty fierce tho. which just makes selena look even more boring in comparison.

lol at selena overselling the movie.
I think thats why people think Selena is such a good actor because Alex is such brat and so mean and at least the image Selena gives off is the total opposite.
If anythings over hyped I think its Selena's acting. People talk about Selena like shes Dakota Fanning. Selena is a good actress, maybe even better then Miley but shes nowhere near as good as everyone thinks she is.

[apogeum]

Selena never said what kind of movie it was, she just said that it would be coming out. Either she simply forgot to mention it's for TV or she conveniently forgot for media attention.

The production company thing is nothing new, there are more people that have that.

[flutesinger262]

Lol. I remember that. Did Selena actually say it would be a theatrical release? Don't forget, Selena also got her own production company.;)

I think those girls missed the boat. We've been hearing since last April that they'd be the new thing, and um, they're not.
people think that just because Selena has her own production company she'll be able to do whatever she pleases in this business. lol, its actually quiet funny to see her fans think like that.

Selena never said what it was, but everyone jumped right to the assumption it was theatrical release. IDK if she gave them a reason to think that but they did

[dontwalkaway]

alex russo is awesome. selena is just eh.
and i think miley does know how big she is, to me she seems very aware of her stance in the media and how the general public is seeing her. i mean, you can be humble and not be completely oblivious, as well.

[apogeum]

As for the who can act and who can't act part. Shows like Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly Place or movies like Another Cinderella Story and Camp Rock are no real judge of whether someone can act or not. Questions like that will be answered once they have to play really challenging roles.

[dontwalkaway]

i know, i'm so stoked for miley to do a serious role. this nicholas sparks movie cannot come quickly enough.
and i'm curious to see if her love interest will be an already known actor or someone they pulled out of minor league for the role.

[Lynnaque]

I think thats why people think Selena is such a good actor because Alex is such brat and so mean and at least the image Selena gives off is the total opposite.
If anythings over hyped I think its Selena's acting. People talk about Selena like shes Dakota Fanning. Selena is a good actress, maybe even better then Miley but shes nowhere near as good as everyone thinks she is.

she's no dakota fanning for sure, but i do think she's a pretty decent comedic actress. better than what i've seen of miley, though less so now in season three of hm. and i can't wait to see miley's acting in the movie, i have a very good feeling eeeee!

[V-ball Baby 101]

Thanks for posting.
Of course people, myself included, will say 'of course no one can replace Miley' but I get what they mean, and I think the next Disney queen could be anyone, but to be honest it feels like Selena's missed the boat there, so I think it's more likely it'll be Demi. But that's just me, and by the time Miley leaves DC, I'm not sure i'll particularly care anymore who's next.
I argee.

[flutesinger262]

As for the who can act and who can't act part. Shows like Hannah Montana, Wizards of Waverly Place or movies like Another Cinderella Story and Camp Rock are no real judge of whether someone can act or not. Questions like that will be answered once they have to play really challenging roles.
thank you. Selena fans don't get it.
its also the directors at the disney tv shows are just horrible. I know Bolt was voice acting but Miley's was still better in that then shes ever been in HM. Especially the fire scene. I don't know if the HM movie is the best thing to judge acting either but even that shows the difference the directors can make. Just from the previews and trailer, Miley's better then shes ever been on HM and thats because disney didn't use their usual directors.

alex russo is awesome. selena is just eh.
and i think miley does know how big she is, to me she seems very aware of her stance in the media and how the general public is seeing her. i mean, you can be humble and not be completely oblivious, as well.
I think Alex is soo annoying. Shes a brat and very selfish. On HM Miley can be a brat but her heart is always in the right place.

I really don't. its not even her being humble, its like the way she talks she really doesn't get how big she is. like you said there is a difference and i don't see it with Miley.

[dontwalkaway]

yeah miley was kind of awful in season 1 but she has funnier lines and is better at delivering them now.
selena's partly a better comedic actres than miley and partly has an easier role to be funny in though

[dontwalkaway]

i think what you're seeing as not knowing how big she is is more like the "i'm your best friend" factor.
remember "it was too cliche, miley cyrus and nick jonas, brad and angelina"
that is not the statement of a girl who doesn't know how far they've come

[flutesinger262]

she's no dakota fanning for sure, but i do think she's a pretty decent comedic actress. better than what i've seen of miley, though less so now in season three of hm. and i can't wait to see miley's acting in the movie, i have a very good feeling eeeee!
I think Selena's a better actress but Miley's got more a natural comedic timing. if that makes sense. Selena's also better then Miley, but not so much that its really noticable. Miley and Selena are light years better then Demi at acting but Selena's not significantly better Miley.
Also as funny as miley is I think shes going to be a very good serious actress, which is a good thing because that seems to be where Miley sees herself heading

[dontwalkaway]

sort of related:

http://www.thestreet.com/story/10460307/1/trade-off-of-miley-cyrus-success.html?cm_ven=GOOGLEN

Trade Off of Miley Cyrus' Success


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The daughter of country music songster and actor Billy Ray Cyrus was ranked 35th on the 2008 Forbes Celebrity 100 list, with estimated earnings of $25 million for the year ended June 2008, primarily from her singing and acting. In addition, Cyrus was named by Time magazine as one of the world's 100 most influential people.
Not bad for a 16 year old.

Cyrus got her big break playing the leading role in Walt Disney(DIS Quote - Cramer on DIS - Stock Picks) "Hannah Montana," the extremely popular television series on the Disney Channel. The show revolves around a teenager who leads a double life as a famous music star named Hannah Montana and a regular girl named Miley Stewart. The Hannah Montana franchise has done well for Disney. On Jan. 9, Neilsen Ratings reported that the "Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus: Best of Both Worlds" 3-D video-on-demand concert has generated more than a hundred thousand views on STARZ On Demand.

Because of the amazing popularity of this young superstar, Stockpickr.com and Stockerblog.com have put together a Miley Cyrus Stock Index, which tracks the companies connected to her in a similar way to the Dow Jones Industrial Average. Cyurs' index has fared well from the beginning of the year, down only 5.6%, vs. the Dow, which was down about 8% as of Jan. 23.

[apogeum]

thank you. Selena fans don't get it.
its also the directors at the disney tv shows are just horrible. I know Bolt was voice acting but Miley's was still better in that then shes ever been in HM. Especially the fire scene. I don't know if the HM movie is the best thing to judge acting either but even that shows the difference the directors can make. Just from the previews and trailer, Miley's better then shes ever been on HM and thats because disney didn't use their usual directors.

A TV director can't really put his own mark on an episode, he or she has to follow the guide lines set by the format and the network. With a movie a director is the one who basically decides the general feel of the movie and how things are done. They just have far more artistic freedom which would also reflect on the acting by the actors.

As for the problems with the Alex character on WOWP, yes she is a brat since the start. Sure they're turning Miley into a bit of a brat now but that's also leading up to the movie. I would say the Alex character is just far less likable than the Miley character.

[Nelliephant]

I'm seriously going to cry.
Just wrote practically an entire essay in a reply, and then the freaking thing decided it couldn't find www.mymostwanted.com to add the reply.
Can't wait to see Miley doing more serious films, I think a good stepping stone will be the NS movie, and then maybe something like Mean Girls?

[flutesinger262]

yeah miley was kind of awful in season 1 but she has funnier lines and is better at delivering them now.
selena's partly a better comedic actres than miley and partly has an easier role to be funny in though
HM was Miley's first role, but shes gotten so much better. Also I don't think Miley's ever gotten enough credit for her acting. Alex is a much easier role to play then Miley and Hannah Montana are. I really like that Miley plays Miley Stewart and Hannah Montana as two different people and not as a character within a character(which is something I think most young actors would have done). On the show Miley and Hannah are the same person but when Miley puts on wig the body language, the way she carries herself, how she talks, the personality it all changes. Its subtle stuff but it goes a long way. Even though Miley and Hannah are the same person they're very different, its not just look wise and thats not the director or anything, thats all Miley

[SeSaSe]

From a different thread:

Post by nelliephant

"I love how you go to the first page of every thread, and it's a decent topic about what Miley's up to, then if it's got more than 5 pages, you'll skip to the last page to join in, only to find the conversation has turned to either miley abduction/laser guns/babies etc. "


Nine pages and no Mileynapping.:):)

[Nelliephant]

From a different thread:

Post by nelliephant

"I love how you go to the first page of every thread, and it's a decent topic about what Miley's up to, then if it's got more than 5 pages, you'll skip to the last page to join in, only to find the conversation has turned to either miley abduction/laser guns/babies etc. "


Nine pages and no Mileynapping.:):)

:O:P You're right! Woohoo!

[Lynnaque]

HM was Miley's first role, but shes gotten so much better. Also I don't think Miley's ever gotten enough credit for her acting. Alex is a much easier role to play then Miley and Hannah Montana are. I really like that Miley plays Miley Stewart and Hannah Montana as two different people and not as a character within a character(which is something I think most young actors would have done). On the show Miley and Hannah are the same person but when Miley puts on wig the body language, the way she carries herself, how she talks, the personality it all changes. Its subtle stuff but it goes a long way. Even though Miley and Hannah are the same person they're very different, its not just look wise and thats not the director or anything, thats all Miley

that's true, i really like how miley differentiates miley and hannah, i wouldn't say the personality changes though, she just becomes more confident. hannah seems like a tool miley directs at whatever she needs. and i guess you're right that alex is an easier role to play, as she is pretty one-note. even if it's one awesome note.

edit: also, let's kidnap miley! yeah!

[swe3t23]

Miley is a comedian... for her to do drama films... ummm still 50/50 not sure if she can pull it off... but her craft is comedy

[flutesinger262]

that's true, i really like how miley differentiates miley and hannah, i wouldn't say the personality changes though, she just becomes more confident. hannah seems like a tool miley directs at whatever she needs. and i guess you're right that alex is an easier role to play, as she is pretty one-note. even if it's one awesome note.

edit: also, let's kidnap miley! yeah!
IDK, like when Miley's hannah the character becomes a lot more outgoing, a lot less awkward, a lot less shy. I agree a lot of it is confidence(she carries herself differently, she talks slight different, the body language is different) but its more then that.

Miley is a comedian... for her to see drama... ummm still 50/50 if she can pull it off... but craft is comedya lot of people think as funny as Miley is that she'd be better at serious acting. The couple scenes on HM that shes had the change to do a little dramatic acting shes been very good, the fire scene in bolt her voice over was heart breaking and from what i've seen of the HM movie its again going to be the dramatic parts where Miley shines.
its really weird, Miley's got great comedic timing and shes great at physical comedy, buts she really shines in the more serious scenes.

[apogeum]

Just clips of a movie and an animated movie are no real indicator of how good she is though. There first has to be a full movie out where she can really show she can play someone else. The key to being a good actor is that you can convincingly play someone else; a lot of big stars can't even do it. If you see the actor on screen and not the character they've failed.

And sometimes comedians can make good actors, I doubt that at one point someone would have though Robin Williams would win an actor.

[flutesinger262]

Just clips of a movie and an animated movie are no real indicator of how good she is though. There first has to be a full movie out where she can really show she can play someone else. The key to being a good actor is that you can convincingly play someone else; a lot of big stars can't even do it. If you see the actor on screen and not the character they've failed.

And sometimes comedians can make good actors, I doubt that at one point someone would have though Robin Williams would win an actor.

I think you can get a pretty good idea though, I can't wait until the NS movie because then you'll really be able to tell.

thats true about Robin Williams as well. hes a comedian and hes so funny, he doesn't do serious stuff as much as he does comedy but when he does serious roles hes amazing

think what you're seeing as not knowing how big she is is more like the "i'm your best friend" factor.
remember "it was too cliche, miley cyrus and nick jonas, brad and angelina"
that is not the statement of a girl who doesn't know how far they've come
you know your the first person i've ever seen take that comment that way. Everyone else was saying that comment was showing that miley ddoesn't know her place, that she thought she was a lot bigger then she really is.

[Julia--Miley]

i don't think anyone can or should replace her.
disney is so effed up.
no one can be their own person.

selena, demi, miley, and the jonas brothers are all amazing in their own way,
they all will be and are successful. there should be no competition.

[apogeum]

I think you can get a pretty good idea though, I can't wait until the NS movie because then you'll really be able to tell.

You can get a good idea yes but I've seen plenty of cases where I thought "this boy/girl can act" but in the next movie they were complete rubbish.

It usually takes me more than just clips to be convinced on something like that but I can be extremely critical of actors. Maybe even too critical at times, shows like Hannah Montana or Wizars of Waverly Place aren't shows you watch because of the marvelous acting skills though. If I did that I would have turned off WOWP as soon as I saw David deLuise on screen, he should stay behind the camera just like his brother (producer for shows like Stargate).

[BuickNamedMiley]

The day Miley leaves Disney is the day I stop watching it. Selena is good, but doesn't have the star power that Miley has. Demi's album was ok, but her new show looks awful. Worst I've seen from Disney in a long time. I'll watch it once, but I expect to be horiffied.

Miley is good at acting, singing, comedy and performing. Demi and Selena are somewhat talented, but they don't have everything Miley has, and they don't have her charisma.

That's what was most important for Miley. Call it star power, confidence, sex appeal or whatever, it makes her stand out. Demi and Selena don't have that. if Disney wants them to be the next Miley, they'll have to really push for it, and they still won't achieve the mainstream popularity that Miley has. Plus they're older. What 11 year old kid who is just starting to watch Disney channel is going to relate to a 17 or 18 year old? When Selena is 18, it will be kind of wierd seeing her play 15 year old Alex Russo.

When Miley was 13, we were younger and could relate to her. As we've gotten older, she has grown up too. I'm 17 and still find Hannah Montana interesting, even though people call it a kid show. But we're eventually going to get older and more mature, and watch older, more mature television. It would be stupid for Miley NOT to leave Disney. I'm sure Hannah Montana will eventually get boring, and us, her ever-loyal hardcore fans, will get bored. I cannot wait to see Miley in more mature roles.

She has a bright future, whatever she decides to do, be an actress, be a rock star, hell even modeling. Miley IS sexy, at least in my eyes. Back in season 1 I didn't think that, but she's grown up. She's a beautiful woman, that's all there is to it. Not like slutty sexy, but gorgeous, classy sexy.

[Nelliephant]

^^Completely agree with that, but Selena wouldn't be playing a 15-year old Alex Russo when she's 18, she'd be playing 18-year old Alex Russo, or some other character, depending on where her career goes.
I think it'd be good for Miley to do a couple of good Walt Disney films after she's left DC if she finds them, like POTC style Disney, and I will always say she'll do great as a voice actor in animations.
Other than that though, i'm hoping she'll do some really great, different films and projects.

[HannahMontanaismyhero]

blech if either selena OR (shiver) DEMI takes over im black balling the show for good.

[Nelliephant]

^^WHOAA!!!!!!
That seriously has to be the first ever time I've seen a SOD signature on here, or anyone even mention them!
And don't hate your Mac :( It's your friend really, even when it's not working and the beachball just keeps spinning round and around and aroung...ahhh you're making me angry!
And I take it you meant the channel for good, seeing as I highly doubt Demi or Selena are taking over the role of Hannah Montana, now that would be really, really wrong.

[flutesinger262]

^^Completely agree with that, but Selena wouldn't be playing a 15-year old Alex Russo when she's 18, she'd be playing 18-year old Alex Russo, or some other character, depending on where her career goes.
I think it'd be good for Miley to do a couple of good Walt Disney films after she's left DC if she finds them, like POTC style Disney, and I will always say she'll do great as a voice actor in animations.
Other than that though, i'm hoping she'll do some really great, different films and projects.
she probably would be, HM is the only time I can ever remember disney actually aging the characters.

ITA I think it will be good for Miley to do a couple of disney films if they're not tweeny bopper. Like I said I feel like its up to disney if she stays not Miley. Miley seems to know what she wants to do already, its up to disney to make the decision if they want to work with her and be a part of that. A part of me believes that is going to want to capitalize on her movie career.
Musically I think miley will be gone from HR's when her contract is finished. Its going to take a lot for them to get her to stay with them musically I think

[Nelliephant]

she probably would be, HM is the only time I can ever remember disney actually aging the characters.

ITA I think it will be good for Miley to do a couple of disney films if they're not tweeny bopper. Like I said I feel like its up to disney if she stays not Miley. Miley seems to know what she wants to do already, its up to disney to make the decision if they want to work with her and be a part of that. A part of me believes that is going to want to capitalize on her movie career.
Musically I think miley will be gone from HR's when her contract is finished. Its going to take a lot for them to get her to stay with them musically I think

Completely agree with the music part, I think Miley will definitely want to be on a deal that gives her more creative freedom.
About the aging thing, as far as I know they've always aged their characters in shows
Lizzie McGuire (albeit really weirdly)
That's So Raven
Kim Possible (animation but still)
etc. they've always seemed to age their characters, but it's true that a lot of the time, by the end, the actor isn't still the same age as the character, even if they started off that way. Mainly because the timeline is so weird. Wasn't Lizzie meant to be off to high school in the LM movie, but Hilary was about 16-17 already wasn't she?
Also, just something I remembered. I have a feeling that at the end of the HM Movie we'll see Jackson leave for College, just basing that on the clip of him falling out of the car, but I might be completely off on that one, it could be from the same scene where BR and Jackson are waiting in the car and BR says 'she is so in trouble'

[flutesinger262]

Completely agree with the music part, I think Miley will definitely want to be on a deal that gives her more creative freedom.
About the aging thing, as far as I know they've always aged their characters in shows
Lizzie McGuire (albeit really weirdly)
That's So Raven
Kim Possible (animation but still)
etc. they've always seemed to age their characters, but it's true that a lot of the time, by the end, the actor isn't still the same age as the character, even if they started off that way. Mainly because the timeline is so weird. Wasn't Lizzie meant to be off to high school in the LM movie, but Hilary was about 16-17 already wasn't she?
Also, just something I remembered. I have a feeling that at the end of the HM Movie we'll see Jackson leave for College, just basing that on the clip of him falling out of the car, but I might be completely off on that one, it could be from the same scene where BR and Jackson are waiting in the car and BR says 'she is so in trouble'
thats definately why i think she'll be gone from HR's, shes going to want creative freedom that they won't give her.
Hilary was 16 or 17 still playing a 14 year old girl. Raven they never aged the characters are far as I know. If they done it before it wasn't how they did it with HM where they noticeably aged them.

IDK about the end of the movie but maybe at the end of the TV show he will. They already did an episode about him applying to college.

[NancyDrew]

Thanks for posting, but yeah. lol. Good luck to them. They're going to need it imo.

[Yero34]

I just hope Miley avoids the romcom genre for a while. It's an easy way to be typecast, and they tend not to be taken seriously unless respected people are involved. IE, no tweener romantic comedies. Might I reccomend the Black Cat from Spiderman. A tad younger than Catwoman, and you still get the leather.8-) Seriously though, I hope she avoids romcoms for a while.

[dontwalkaway]

awww but miley in romantic comedies would just melt my heart, even if it's awful for her career
i feel like if she did anything like Mean Girls next though the media would be like "loooook, the LiLo steps are folding themselves out in front of us:
step 1: disney
step 2: funny pg-13 chick flicks that everyone loves
step 3: CRACK AND HOMOSEXUALITY

[Yero34]

HOMOSEXUALITY


If she skips the other ones, can she follow this one?:54::P

I'd like to see her go in a different direction. I don't need to see her play drug addicts or rape victims, but something a little more dramatic might be awesome. I seriously think she'd kill in dramatic roles. I think she's hilarious, but I really see the potential for drama.

[SeSaSe]

awww but miley in romantic comedies would just melt my heart, even if it's awful for her career
i feel like if she did anything like Mean Girls next though the media would be like "loooook, the LiLo steps are folding themselves out in front of us:
step 1: disney
step 2: funny pg-13 chick flicks that everyone loves
step 3: CRACK AND HOMOSEXUALITY

:lol::lol:

Quite a progression. Did you purposely omit death, plague, and armageddon?

[apogeum]

I would think the terms assassin and serial killer were left out of that as well.

[dontwalkaway]

lindsey hasn't killed anyone yet from what i'm aware of
i could be horribly misinformed though

[C_City*]

I hope Miley doesn't go down the crazy-lady Disney route.

As two of Hollywood's arguebly craziest crazy-ladies came from the school of Disney.

Miss.Lohan & Miss.Spears.

[SeSaSe]

I would think the terms assassin and serial killer were left out of that as well.

An intriguing idea. Miley as a coldblooded, merciless contract killer.

[dontwalkaway]

and britney STILL owns the charts

[Julia--Miley]

i highly doubt she will.
if she can get through all the hate she's gotten already, so can get through anything,
also with mandy & her family, they help her stay sane.

[apogeum]

We wouldn't want Miley to do movies where she gets her leg chopped off and win a razzie. So no I wouldn't want Miley to step into Lindsay's footstep(s).

[Yero34]

Is that I Know Who Killed Me? Miley is not allowed to do horror movies. Mostly because they suck, and because they scare me. She isn't allowed to do anything where she dies unexpectedly.:28:

[SeSaSe]

Is that I Know Who Killed Me?


Yeah, that's the one.

[apogeum]

Is that I Know Who Killed Me? Miley is not allowed to do horror movies. Mostly because they suck, and because they scare me. She isn't allowed to do anything where she dies unexpectedly.:28:

What if she was the one who did all the killing? Without dying in the end?

And horror movies in general aren't stupid just incredibly boring.

[dontwalkaway]

god that was such a bad movie. i was dragged. i friggin hate every and all horror movies. just cannot even deal.

[Nelliephant]

I'd love to see Miley do one horror, but she could be the main character that survives but is horribly traumatized for the rest of her life. Then the sequel could be how she copes with the emotional turmoil and BAM! Oscar nomination.

[dontwalkaway]

but it would be so painful to have to not see miley in a movie

[SeSaSe]

What if she was the one who did all the killing? Without dying in the end?



A remake of American Psycho II: All American Girl. A heart warming story of a young woman determined to get ahead and succeeding.

[apogeum]

Well, the I Know Who Killed Me thing by Lindsay is one record Miley will not break, three razzies by one person. Two shared ones for worst actress and one for worst on screen couple by herself...... still don't quite get how that works out.

Bad horror movies can actually be a good laugh, that thing was just...... nothing.

[Yero34]

Maybe a thriller, but not a horror movie. That would be really cool.

[Nelliephant]

FBI/CIA Miley, I can definitely see that.
Or like Eagle Eye, Miley could be Shia!
Actually, seriously Miley and Shia should do a film together (when Miley's older)

[Yero34]

Wouldn't that make Selena's head explode.:54: What a mess.

I'd love to see spy/secret agent Miley. That'd be fierce.

[Nelliephant]

TBF, I actually agree with Selena on that one.
I can just imagine Miley doing the weird sign language they always seem to do in those films (the agent people) as she tracks down a bomber who's about to blow up an entire factory that makes Camp Rock merchandise.
And I still say one slasher movie would be awesome, just for the experience.

[Yero34]

can just imagine Miley doing the weird sign language they always seem to do in those films (the agent people) as she tracks down a bomber who's about to blow up an entire factory that makes Camp Rock merchandise.



She's supposed to be helping the world.;)

I can go for a horror movie if it's not too bloody. No Hostel, no Saw, no gratuitous gore. lol. Otherwise, sorry Miley. Don't ask me to watch you die a horrible bloody death. Robot Chicken's as far as I'm going on that.

I could go for a thriller though.

[Nelliephant]

She's supposed to be helping the world.;)

I can go for a horror movie if it's not too bloody. No Hostel, no Saw, no gratuitous gore. lol. Otherwise, sorry Miley. Don't ask me to watch you die a horrible bloody death. Robot Chicken's as far as I'm going on that.

I could go for a thriller though.

That's why she'd realise there wasn't enough time, evacuate the building, arrest the bomber and chuck the bomb into the depths of the factory as they run out of the entrance, then you'd see a shot of Miley jumping away as a huge explosion surrounds her, and Joe Jonas doll heads come flying at the screen.
Yeah a thriller would be better than a horror actually, then we get the threat of death, but it never actually happens :)

[Yero34]

Exactly. And since thrillers have awesome climaxes/confrontations, we get that too. You know what would be awesome? A movie similar to the tv show Bolt, ie, not the actual movie, but the parts with the green eyed man and stuff, that would be killer.8-) I want to hear Miley backtack a "creepy English man." lol.

[Nelliephant]

Dude that would be freaking amazing!
I always thought Miley'd make a great Kim Possible-type. But yeah like a hybrid of Bolt the show and Kim Possible

[Yero34]

And live action, cause that would be the greatest thing ever. They could have Malcolm McDowell play the bad guy, if only for a sense of symmetry. He was the voice of the Green Eyed man in Bolt. Awesomeness. If she never does a movie where she backtalks to a creepy English guy, I will be sad.

[skatergator777]

Supposedly they are maing another installament of nightmare on elm street. I could toally see Miley taking down Freddy. First she pobably diss his sweater and tell him to get some moisterizer(sp?) which would probably make him mad so there may be blood, but i can see miley killing him in the end, again.

[Yero34]

Makes perfect sense. Lol. I could see something like the FOTW video. That would be killer.

[skatergator777]

Ok now i really want miley to do a Nightmare on ...(titles too long) like seriously if miley's character were anything like miley i think she could make Freddy cringe. Bad Miley vs. Freddy would equal one succesful movie. A) cuz most miley fans owuld go B)freddy fans would go and c) thriller lovers will go. I could think of a whole scary movie plot just for miley, that envolves her being victorious in the end.

[Yero34]

Lol. Do tell. For another thriller idea, I think her as a daughter of a such and such would be cool. Life in danger blah blah blah, except, she's all in control doesn't need no stinkin' bodyguard because she is just that awesome. Oh wait, that'd just be her real life sort of.8-)

[skatergator777]

A freddy plot or just a made up one?

[Yero34]

Either one. I'm curious. I love thrillers. Probably my favorite genre after musicals. They're just so, thrilling. lol. If she ever does a thriller, the heavens will part and you will hear a choir of angels singing "Hallelujah," in my head. lol. Seriously though, that'd be killer. Thriller, or action, or both.

[skatergator777]

Ok well if it were a freddy thriller. First it would start off at a party late at night everyone is wasted on elm street except Miley, she is at home studying and her boyfriend wamts her to go to the the party but she declines. Then someone at the party falls asleep and freddy is unleashed. The whole chain of event starts and Miley keeps hearing things in her dreams. She researches in her local library and discovers the truth of freddy and how he killed innocent people numerous amounts of times. Now she is worried that she'll see him. In her dream she is on a date with her boyfriend and she sees two demented girls singing one two freddy's coming for you ....(*i'd finish the song but then i wouldnt be able to sleep) her dreamself is getting worried and her boyfriend dissapears and she hears a screeching noise and wakes up. Miley islosing sleep in fear of seeing freddy ans she tells her boyfriend over the phone to stay up with her all night cuz she is very worried. He falls asleep and thats then end of him. She too slowly drifts off and in her dream she walks into her bathroom and begins to take a bubble bath as she is sitting in the tub freddy comes out of nowhere(scratch that, too graphic) as she turns on the water rather than having water come out a red and black striped liquid comes out and turns into freddy and he grabs her with his knife glove hand, but luckily she wakes up .... too late he is out of dream world and in the real world again. She runs out of the house as fast as she can and he winds up cornering her in a misty alley, he inches closer and closer and then ....... *cue music* he begins dancing like the paps in fly on the wall. She wakes up and realizes it was all a dream ... or was it. Then freddy comes out of nowhere and grabs her and the screen fades to black therefore we can get a sequel , technically it wouldnt be a sequel cuz they have already made a bunch.

Hows that for a thriller.

[Yero34]

Wow. That is pretty much the greatest thing ever. Lol. Pap dancing. Awesome.:lol: Dang that was giving me the willies. You're awesome, Erica.8-) Didn't you make a thriller to the FOTW video too? lol.

[skatergator777]

Yeah i did, but that was nothing, that was a plot summary i could make up a whole story but i didnt think it would be good to have one long story post. I think i might even make it into a story for my own amusement.

[Yero34]

Cool. Got me hooked. lol. What am I envisioning?:33: I can't do horror movie plots, mostly because I'd never sleep again. I could probably do a thriller. Not as good as you, that was killer. One of my favorite thrillers, even though it's almost hard to watch, is Ransom. That was excellent, but incredibly nerve wracking.

[dontwalkaway]

my ideal movie consists one hour of miley playing with kittens and puppies and one hour of miley in a leather suit kicking random peoples' asses

[skatergator777]

Yero, If i turn it into a story i let you be the first to read it. I never have written a thriller in my life before that one about fly on the wall. I guess when i hopefully become script/screen writer and movie director i should do thrillers.

[destinydreamer]

Selena is Selena, I love her. She can DANCE. Watch ACS if you don't believe me.
she'll give you the proof.

Demi is on her way to being bigger than Miley iMhO. she's AHMAZING, and her pipes
speak for themselves.

[Yero34]

Absotivelyposilutely. Sorry, Oliver and Company. I love Dodger.

Your thrillers are awesome. I would totally read/watch that. I was on the edge of my seat reading the Freddy Krueger one. I once read the plot summary on wikipedia. Scared the crap out of me, so did that. lol. I want to try my hand at this. I could watch her in a Scream type movie. As long as she doesn't die.

[MileyIsAnAngel]

fun fact!

dodger is my dog's name.

[Yero34]

I don't want her first role outside of disney to be like a drug addict or anything, but something slightly more serious would ease her into adult roles. Then she can play spies and what not and wear leather catsuits. Heck yeah.8-)

[C_City*]

Ok, I'm gonna only respond one time cos I got a feeling this could turn into an argument.

Anyways: Demi will never be bigger than Miley. She just does not have the personality. And plus it would have already happened. Both D & S already missed that boat.

There lol. I'm done. Hehe.

[skatergator777]

Absotivelyposilutely. Sorry, Oliver and Company. I love Dodger.

Your thrillers are awesome. I would totally read/watch that. I was on the edge of my seat reading the Freddy Krueger one. I once read the plot summary on wikipedia. Scared the crap out of me, so did that. lol. I want to try my hand at this. I could watch her in a Scream type movie. As long as she doesn't die.


cant wait to hear your thriller

[Yero34]

Aww crap. lol. Hmmm,:33: What should I do? Did you see my own version of the FOTW video? I could do a plot for that. lol.

[destinydreamer]

Demi has the voice, her TV show is about to premiere, and she and Sel are bff's.
she's got it going for her <3

[skatergator777]

Whatever no one really gives a care about demi on the miley parts of the forum, maybe like 1 or 2, but there isnt a need to bring this up again. To each there own, let miley be miley and demi be demi. I think even demi knows she'll never be as big as Miley. She accepts that too, so try to do that yourself.

[MileyIsAnAngel]

moving on to more important news.

miley owns.

[skatergator777]

Ha yes she does.

[Yero34]

Lol. Are we having a state the obvious contest? I'll play. Miley is the shiz.8-)

[MileyIsAnAngel]

it's a very fun game.

[Yero34]

'Tis 'tis.:D

Hannah Montana wasn't that good in the first season. But the kids were just that, kids. 12, 12, and 13. Give or take. Even Emily was just awful in the first episode. But they quickly got into a groove, and now, they're dynamite. But they were just kids. Camp Rock, Sonny with a Chance, they're not kids.

[C_City*]

Iv not seen that Sonny show.

But I saw Camp Rock, gave it a chance & I thought it sucked.

[flutesinger262]

I don't want her first role outside of disney to be like a drug addict or anything, but something slightly more serious would ease her into adult roles. Then she can play spies and what not and wear leather catsuits. Heck yeah.8-)
Miley keeps saying she wants to do roles that matter. I wonder what kind of roles shes talking about.

[Yero34]

Beats me. I kind of know what she's getting at, but kind of not. More serious projects I imagine, but as for the role, got me. It'd be cool to see her play something like a mental patient.

[Amandinha]

Beats me. I kind of know what she's getting at, but kind of not. More serious projects I imagine, but as for the role, got me. It'd be cool to see her play something like a mental patient.
Nice.
I'd love if she played a patient on ER, curious of how it'd be.
Its one of my favorite shows.

[Yero34]

It'd be cool to see her a do a guest stint on something like ER(not CSI), but the Panabakers were on GA, and they were annoying as crap. Mind you those were the characters. It might be cool though. Taylor's doing it.

[destinydreamer]

Whatever no one really gives a care about demi on the miley parts of the forum, maybe like 1 or 2, but there isnt a need to bring this up again. To each there own, let miley be miley and demi be demi. I think even demi knows she'll never be as big as Miley. She accepts that too, so try to do that yourself.
She's who she is, an angel.

saying that can offend people, hun.

[dontwalkaway]

hannah i respect that you like demi but every person has their flaws, even if they're hidden
nobody is nice or makes the right decision 100% of the time, and i'm including miley in that

[( soulmates )]

demi can sing but she cannot act for beans

[Amandinha]

It'd be cool to see her a do a guest stint on something like ER(not CSI), but the Panabakers were on GA, and they were annoying as crap. Mind you those were the characters. It might be cool though. Taylor's doing it.
Now that I really think about it I would loove Miley playing a patient on ER.
Picturing it in my head I think she'd do so good.
Especially if she was weak and could barely talk... her smoker voice, haha, awesome.
Now I want it. :28:
Yeah, I want to see Taylor acting... waiting for the episode.

[Yero34]

Especially if she was weak and could barely talk... her smoker voice, haha, awesome.



Awww. I love it when she sounds all sad and vulnerable. Lol. Smoker voice. That might actually be a good idea. If she ever found the time for it. It would be considered stunt casting, but she is an actor. So it's not like a singer just being thrown in there. Sorry Tay. lol.

[Amandinha]

Awww. I love it when she sounds all sad and vulnerable. Lol. Smoker voice. That might actually be a good idea. If she ever found the time for it. It would be considered stunt casting, but she is an actor. So it's not like a singer just being thrown in there. Sorry Tay. lol.
Haha, exactly. Me too. Her husky, smoker voice is aaah *sighs* I love it more than anything. As long as she didn't die, I would love it. ER is awesome.

[Yero34]

Lol. Pretty much. What other shows are there? The medical one is always a good choice. Law and Order? Lol. Maybe not.

[skatergator777]

I think a good show for her to be on if it were non-serious would be SNL. I could see some very good sketches

[Amandinha]

Lol. Pretty much. What other shows are there? The medical one is always a good choice. Law and Order? Lol. Maybe not.
I don't like Law and Order.
I used to watch CSI a loong time ago, but I don't watch it anymore.
ER is a serious one and its the one I would want her to be in, not the others like CSI, Law and Order, etc.
And well if it was a funny one then yeah I would like to see her on SNL.

[Yero34]

If she doesn't host SNL soon, I'm going to be perturbed. lol. I know it's past her bed time, but come on. lol.

For serious ones, I think something like L&O could be really good. Not SVU though. No. Heck no. Either original recipe, or CI.

[Marauder]

i want miley to play:whoever in a great and terrible beauty.

[BuickNamedMiley]

Don't know if this would be her style, but i'd like to see Miley in an action/suspense movie. Like Live Free or Die Hard. She would be perfect for Angelia Jolie in Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Like Miley slides down a rope out of a helicopter wearing tight leather pants with a machine gun in her hand and kills all the bad guys. And then saves the day at the end.

[SeSaSe]

How about something on the order of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer". Fighting evil.

[Nelliephant]

Dude that's really weird, just the other day I was thinking of doing a fanvid of the buffy credits, but with Miley as Buffy.
Seriously, I can totally see Miley as Buffy. Except maybe a tad less whiny (currently re-watching my season 4 dvd's) I can just see Miley having her own show with that kind of theme, but I'm guessing she'll want to do movies after HM. Then again, who knows?

[SeSaSe]

I was thinking a movie or two to create separation from the HM TV series, then a new TV series. This way we could see her every week.

[apogeum]

TV shows can be more work than movies though; which would mean she has less time to work on music ;). I would rather see her in movie honestly.

I would like to see her more in an action/sci-fi/thriller kind of thing (and not just because I'm trying to write a move like that at the moment which calls for a 16/17 year old).

[SeSaSe]

TV shows can be more work than movies though; which would mean she has less time to work on music ;). I would rather see her in movie honestly.



It is more work, but a lot of the new series coming out on cable are only going 12-13 episodes instead of the usual 20-30. This would allow her time for music and touring.

[Nelliephant]

Are they?
Wow, that's a change. I think it could to the TV Industry over there a lot of good. Here most shows only have 8 or 12 episodes in a series (season), and it means you don't get nearly as many dud episodes where not a lot happens.
Maybe the writers strike showed them that you can have a really good season with less episodes.
Anyway, back on topic, it's true that TV Shows would take up more time I guess, but I would still love to see Miley do another show. Lots of movies too though, then I can add them to my DVD collection :D

[SeSaSe]

Are they?
Wow, that's a change. I think it could to the TV Industry over there a lot of good. Here most shows only have 8 or 12 episodes in a series (season), and it means you don't get nearly as many dud episodes where not a lot happens.


Yeah. I enjoyed the shorter series such as "Silent Witness", "Wire In The Blood", "Prime Suspect", etc. The quality was so much higher. A good example of quality versus quantity.

[Nelliephant]

^^Yup, and haven't they started trying to make the episodes longer too, to make up for it. So instead of 22 42 minute episodes, it'd be 12 60 minute episodes.
I think some shows manage fine with 22, and obviously shows like 24 need that many episodes, it's integral to the plot, but a lot of them, it wouldn't do the show any harm at all to have shorter seasons I think.
And if you haven't already, I recommed the UK version of Life On Mars. Fantastic piece of television.

[SeSaSe]

[quote=Nelliephant;2583132
And if you haven't already, I recommed the UK version of Life On Mars. Fantastic piece of television.[/quote]

I've seen some of the promos, but not the show. I'll have to put it on my list. Thank you for mentioning it.

[Lynnaque]

Dude that's really weird, just the other day I was thinking of doing a fanvid of the buffy credits, but with Miley as Buffy.
Seriously, I can totally see Miley as Buffy. Except maybe a tad less whiny (currently re-watching my season 4 dvd's) I can just see Miley having her own show with that kind of theme, but I'm guessing she'll want to do movies after HM. Then again, who knows?

oi, if anyone has the right to be whiny it's a slayer, buffy in particular.

[Nelliephant]

oi, if anyone has the right to be whiny it's a slayer, buffy in particular.

I do agree mostly, but just occasionally you do feel like saying 'seriously, get over it'.
On the whole though, I think she handled the whole slayer thing very well, at least a lot better than Faith.
:( I just watched the episode where Oz comes back, stupid boy for going away in the first place, him and Willow = <3

[Nelliephant]

I've seen some of the promos, but not the show. I'll have to put it on my list. Thank you for mentioning it.

No problem, you really should cause it's full on amazing.
I am interested to see the US version though, it's meant to be pretty good.

Other shows you might be interested in:
Gavin & Stacey
Doctor Who (if you're into sci-fi, yes it's technically a family show but I adore it)
Green Wing
and you might be able to find State Of Play somewhere, it has James McAvoy and John Simm (who plays sam tyler in the uk life on mars) and they're remaking it into a movie at the moment - good thriller.
I'll let you know if I come up with any others :)

[Lynnaque]

considering she's living with the life expectancy of about 20 years, and considering everything she's had to go through, be it angelus or just nobody (but her friends) appreciating what she does, i say she can be as whiny as she wants, as long as she does her job.

it's the same with the doctor when people are like "get over it, you're NOT alone", ehe okay, have YOUR entie species been eradicated (by yourself).

you cut them some slack. also, while willow and oz were ADORABLE, willow/tara <3 <3 <3

[luoana.mihaela]

well I think selena and demi could be the next ....but....Miley is the best!!I don't think nobody can take her place!Miley has more fans then this 2 together!!

[Nelliephant]

considering she's living with the life expectancy of about 20 years, and considering everything she's had to go through, be it angelus or just nobody (but her friends) appreciating what she does, i say she can be as whiny as she wants, as long as she does her job.

it's the same with the doctor when people are like "get over it, you're NOT alone", ehe okay, have YOUR entie species been eradicated (by yourself).

you cut them some slack. also, while willow and oz were ADORABLE, willow/tara <3 <3 <3

You do make a good point. Especially when it comes to the Doctor, I have a soft spot anyhow.
Meh, I think as far as I remember, Willow and Tara grew on me after Season 4, but seeing as that's the season I'm watching right now, I'm not really feeling it, mostly because Tara kind of annoys me, I don't think it's bad acting, just that I dislike the character. But I do seem to remember them growing on me a lot as Tara got more confident.
And I'm surprised how much I like Riley this time around. Before I thought he was just bleh, compared to Angel (though I've gotta say, badass Angel is so much hotter than in-love-with-buffy Angel), but he's nice at least, and he seems sweet so I can accept him, sort of.
Anya's my personal favourite though when it comes to couples on Buffy, she's just so...blunt. Oh, and of course, I can't forget Spike.

[Lynnaque]

You do make a good point. Especially when it comes to the Doctor, I have a soft spot anyhow.
Meh, I think as far as I remember, Willow and Tara grew on me after Season 4, but seeing as that's the season I'm watching right now, I'm not really feeling it, mostly because Tara kind of annoys me, I don't think it's bad acting, just that I dislike the character. But I do seem to remember them growing on me a lot as Tara got more confident.
And I'm surprised how much I like Riley this time around. Before I thought he was just bleh, compared to Angel (though I've gotta say, badass Angel is so much hotter than in-love-with-buffy Angel), but he's nice at least, and he seems sweet so I can accept him, sort of.
Anya's my personal favourite though when it comes to couples on Buffy, she's just so...blunt. Oh, and of course, I can't forget Spike.

lol honestly it's been a while since i've watched season 4, but willow/tara was worth it just for buffy's reaction to the news haha. but yeah i do think i liked willow/tara more later on, but then my focus was always on buffy, spike and anya. those were my favorites and i love buffy/spike. i loved buffy/angel in season two, but after "something blue" or whatever it was i was totes on the spuffy love train. i realy liked anya/xander until he went and left her at the alter, the ass. riley? meh.

who do/did you ship on doctor who?

[Nelliephant]

lol honestly it's been a while since i've watched season 4, but willow/tara was worth it just for buffy's reaction to the news haha. but yeah i do think i liked willow/tara more later on, but then my focus was always on buffy, spike and anya. those were my favorites and i love buffy/spike. i loved buffy/angel in season two, but after "something blue" or whatever it was i was totes on the spuffy love train. i realy liked anya/xander until he went and left her at the alter, the ass. riley? meh.

who do/did you ship on doctor who?

Pretty much agree with everything you just said :D
And Doctor Who...tbh I like The Doctor on his own, at least in terms of romantic relationships. I loved him and Donna because they were just really good friends, and Martha in the second half of her season.
Rose, I liked that they gave her the happy ending, but it was the only way to do it, The actual Doctor ending up with her just wouldn't have worked I don't think.
I'm really excited about the new special(s) with Michelle Ryan and then of course the new Doctor!

[Lynnaque]

Pretty much agree with everything you just said :D
And Doctor Who...tbh I like The Doctor on his own, at least in terms of romantic relationships. I loved him and Donna because they were just really good friends, and Martha in the second half of her season.
Rose, I liked that they gave her the happy ending, but it was the only way to do it, The actual Doctor ending up with her just wouldn't have worked I don't think.
I'm really excited about the new special(s) with Michelle Ryan and then of course the new Doctor!

i loved doctor/donna for that same reason, they were really close without there being romantic feelings involved. and of course donna herself is pretty amazing. i never really liked martha at all, both because she seemed to have no discernable personality beyond 'medical student in love with the doctor' and because SHE'S NOT ROSE DAMMIT. the latter wich was probably unfair, but whatevs. so yeah total doctor/rose shipper, and i loved rose more than the doctor, though i love him to bits as well. so i'm cool with rose and bluesuit!doctor being space pirates in pete's world, and yay for the specials, and i think the new doctor will work out just fine. much as i'll miss tennant.

[VAHfan4]

i think it won't be selena or demi, cause people have known who they are for a long time so they should be more popular by now if they were the "new queen of disney". i think it will be someone completly new...like me, hahaha! but not yet. however i hate how they label someone as disney's tween queen, there are a lot of actresses and singers for disney...they don't have to point someone out to make them "special" :S

[dontwalkaway]

...your sig is hot

[MileyIsAnAngel]

victoria, isn't every sig with miley hott? ;)

[NancyDrew]

lol. I love that. :P

[mileyrox458]

Ok Miley Cyrus has that "it" factor. She has confidence and real talent in acting and singing. Taylor swift has the it factor to. Confidence and real talent in singing.(maybe acting have to wait for her csi episode to premire)

Demi lovato. talented in singing.Before i talk about acting let me say this I think if your a child actor what you really want is disney.Reasons?? 1.Some real talent there 2.Family friendly 3.More covrage/publicity . Nick is mediorce. jokes not as funny bad acting most of the time and some parnets find the jokes rude. I thimk demi has NICK acting not as good second rate etc.

Selena Gomez. A pretty good actress. Singing um not so much. Selena did another cinderella story. She did work out of disney and the movie wasn't covered very well. But if miley had been in it everyone would know what that movie is.Because selena just is not as popular

Really what i am trying to say is you pretty much have to have TRUE talent in both singing and acting if you want to work with disney. Miley has it all dmei and selena have one of each. I don't think they have the IT factor.

I also think demi would have more sucesse if she wnet the track taylor swift did just music because she has a ok voice.

(Yes i know taylor never wanted acting just singing but in interveiws demi asid she cared about singing more.....)

[summer]

my opinion:

no one is "the next miley"
but here's my opinion on these two:

Selena Gomez: a pretty good actress! plus she has the looks and personality.

Demi Lovato: an amazing voice. i love all her songs on her cd, they're unique too. not normal bubble gum disney pop. but she should stick to singing.

[Rockin_Miley]

Yes but they do have to find someone to become the next face of Disney. I'm not saying they'll find another Miley, because they never will, and they'll probably find someone that stands out like Miley did in another 5-7 years or something, but until then they just need someone popular enough to be the face of Disney Channel. For all we know they could make it the Jonas Brothers (if they're up for that), and whether you like them or not, it would be a nice change to have guys be the big ones on Disney, but out of Selena and Demi, I still say Demi because she's about to get her own show that is almost certainly going to do well, whereas WOWP might be good, but it's always been second in command to HM really.

Thanks for posting.
Of course people, myself included, will say 'of course no one can replace Miley' but I get what they mean, and I think the next Disney queen could be anyone, but to be honest it feels like Selena's missed the boat there, so I think it's more likely it'll be Demi. But that's just me, and by the time Miley leaves DC, I'm not sure i'll particularly care anymore who's next.
i agreee with you.....
I usually do..

[sharp_as-a_tick]

Can't anyone be their own person anymore? We always have "who's gonna be the next Britney Spear or Mariah Carey or Miley Cyrus". It's always competition when it comes to these things.
Nobody can replace Miley. Disney didn't plan for her to become a successful superstar, as well as they didn't plan for HSM to be such a hit. So saying that Selena or Demi can accomplish as much as Miley has, it's not true. Sure, they have talent.. But it doesn't mean they have what it takes to be over the top.
It's not like Mariah Carey, who can sing one song and beome a hit, like, two weeks later.

[mileyraycyrus]

Miley'll never be replaced.
I'm not going to bother with this thread.

[Rockin_Miley]

Miley may have been the biggest. But i think there can be the next big thing.. Ya no one can replace her as to where someone switches places and they cant do the exact same things she has done or achieve some things she has achieved.... But someone will be in the Teen Queen or pop princess or whatever , SOME DAY.
Doesnt matter if they dont reach 'mileys success' that doesnt mean the next girl wont be big.. Its just that some will be bigger then others.

[swe3t23]

Miley can never be replaced........end of story....

Everyone else is just a follower!!!!

[Rockin_Miley]

not everyone

[mileyrox458]

I am happy to be living in the miley cyrus and taylor swift era! Now

[mileyrox458]

i am happy to be living in the miley cyrus and taylor swift era! Now if we can somehow ditch the jonas brothers and selena the world would be perfect.....

[mileyrox458]

opps double posty

[aprilrainer]

You mean "triple posty" and Mileyrox458, I would like you to meet the "Edit" button lol j/p but yea there's a button called the edit button and you can edit your posts instead of triple posting. And I'm not trying to be mean or anything, just letting you know lol

[mileyrox458]

i didn't mean to i hit a button and i meant to type post....not posty

[mileyrox458]

Selena is Selena, I love her. She can DANCE. Watch ACS if you don't believe me.
she'll give you the proof.

Demi is on her way to being bigger than Miley iMhO. she's AHMAZING, and her pipes
speak for themselves.



And that is eactly what i am afraid (in the red

Oh and btw with a couple of weeks of training yuo could learn a few dances......

[nailzee]

And that is eactly what i am afraid (in the red


Oh, don't be afraid - not gonna happen.