Disney ordered more episodes of HM

[flutesinger262]

http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/12/disney_orders_more_montana_sui.php
this was bound to happen, anyways disney's extending third season just like they did with the 2nd season. I wonder how many more episodes they're ordering?
they also ordered a 2nd season of SLOD
oops, wrong section. can a mod move this?

[NancyDrew]

Wow. Not surprised. They'll try to get out what they can. Thanks for posting, Flute! :D

[flutesinger262]

I'm thinking their also going to order a 4th season of HM but thats just me

[NancyDrew]

No, I agree. They're going to get what they can.

[apogeum]

Didn't they have an order for 24 or 26 episodes for the season? I would think they pushed that to 30.

Whether there will be a fourth season is only something time will tell, it's still quite a well before they will start shooting a fourth season. Though as far as Disney is concerned they probably will, if it's the best for the show is still a big question.

[eizy12306]

I'm quite surprised. It'll probably end after the 3rd season.

[kezajones1]

unless they ordered these episodes to kill it off?

[NancyDrew]

I still think they need to have Hannah pull off the wig and continue as Miley or I will go into serious depression thinking Hannah died.

[flutesinger262]

not likely, they did this last season. they kept extending it and extending it and extending it.

it will probably get a 4 th season. Disney has no idea how JONAS and Sonny with a Chance are going to do and they need to make a decision about HM before either premiere. for them I think it would make sense to just have a 4th season of HM, that way they have a sure thing.

[NancyDrew]

Eaxactly. They have a winner right now and what to drag it out as long as they can. Jonas will probably last awhile, but Sonny looks like a bomb.

[apogeum]

Getting a fourth season doesn't just depend on whether Disney wants it though, they might have the option for a fourth season but it doesn't mean the entire cast has contracts like that. Who knows, Emily and Jason might only have signed deals for this season. We'll know for sure whether HM is over when the wig comes off, I still have a suspicion that they might even do the fourth season and end it all with another movie.

Whether new shows will be a success is always a question, they also still have Wizards of Waverly Place. I'm not familiar with the entire Disney Channel programming but they need to create some room for JONAS and Sonny with a Chance. Though Hannah Montana will be the last show they'd cancel for that reason.

[Nelliephant]

Yeah they've got two big new shows coming up, which will probably be very popular, and yeah the contracts will all be different, so there could be a fourth season, but if the actors aren't interested, there might not be.
That'd be a new one, if they did a fourth season and then did another movie to finish it off, but I guess if this HM Movie is a huge success, It would make sense to finish off with another big bang

[flutesinger262]

Getting a fourth season doesn't just depend on whether Disney wants it though, they might have the option for a fourth season but it doesn't mean the entire cast has contracts like that. Who knows, Emily and Jason might only have signed deals for this season. We'll know for sure whether HM is over when the wig comes off, I still have a suspicion that they might even do the fourth season and end it all with another movie.

Whether new shows will be a success is always a question, they also still have Wizards of Waverly Place. I'm not familiar with the entire Disney Channel programming but they need to create some room for JONAS and Sonny with a Chance. Though Hannah Montana will be the last show they'd cancel for that reason.
I was under the impression that the contracts they all have are through a possible 4th season. I doubt they have the cast on contracts for different year lengths. Like I doubt Miley and Mitchel have a contract for 4 seasons, where as Emily and Mitchel have one for 3 seasons. that doesn't make sense to do that. you can easily buy out a contract if you want to get rid of a person, so having them have contracts for different amount of years seems stupid.
Disney canceled Corey in the House. HM, WOWP and SLOD are their only shows that are still airing new episodes. the impression I get is they do not feel as if they can afford to get rid of HM yet. I just get the feeling a 4th season is almost a sure thing.

[flutesinger262]

Yeah they've got two big new shows coming up, which will probably be very popular, and yeah the contracts will all be different, so there could be a fourth season, but if the actors aren't interested, there might not be.
That'd be a new one, if they did a fourth season and then did another movie to finish it off, but I guess if this HM Movie is a huge success, It would make sense to finish off with another big bang
I totally get the contracts being different in a sense they make different salaries and stuff like that but to have the cast on contracts that expire at different times seems to be pointless. you would think they all have contracts that expire the same time, it only makes sense.

[Nelliephant]

I totally get the contracts being different in a sense they make different salaries and stuff like that but to have the cast on contracts that expire at different times seems to be pointless. you would think they all have contracts that expire the same time, it only makes sense.

Oh yeah I agree that they probably all end at the same time, but it might be that they're all only signed on until the end of the 3rd season currently.

[apogeum]

I was under the impression that the contracts they all have are through a possible 4th season. I doubt they have the cast on contracts for different year lengths.

Not sure if it has ever happened on the Disney Channel but it has happened before on other networks, I know that much. They wouldn't plan a show for four years at the start of a run, would be too much of a risk so the contracts would have been renewed inbetween. Buying out contracts also costs money.

Didn't say it was the case though, only saying it could be ;).

I know Disney doesn't want to get rid of HM just yet but they're not the only party concerned in that decision.

[flutesinger262]

Oh yeah I agree that they probably all end at the same time, but it might be that they're all only signed on until the end of the 3rd season currently.
see disney's confusing me. because Miley said they're probably done after this season and disney goes well no, we have an option for the 4 th season and now Miley's said their probably will be a 4th season and shes excited about that.
anyways to me the way disney's making it sound is like if they pick up that option then the casts contracts just get renewed. like I might be wrong but theres a difference between having an option for a fourth season and just ordering another season of the show. I mean in the end the same thing happens, theres another season but the impression i got is with one the actors contracts automatically get renewed, with the other they have to get the cast to agree to resign. Thats how it works with sports contracts anyways, if a team has a team option on a players contract then they can extend the contract for the length of the option without having the players approval because the player agrees to risk the team doing that when they sign the original contract. so maybe they're different but thats how I'm thinking options on for tv shows work as well

[flutesinger262]

they ordered 30 additional episodes?:o as in addition to what they've already ordered. how does that make any sense, why not just order another season.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i726f0f4961487c61b73bad3b114c1275

Disney has ordered 30 additional episodes for the third season of "Hannah" as well as a 13-episode second season of "Suite Life."

"Hannah," which debuted in 2006, stars Miley Cyrus, Emily Osment, Jason Earles, Mitchel Musso, Billy Ray Cyrus and Moises Arias. For the fourth quarter, it ranks as the No. 1 basic cable series among kids 6-11 and tweens 9-14 and the No. 1 scripted series in total viewers.

[apogeum]

I have a feeling that might be a bit of an error, I would think they brought it to 30 episodes for the season. Or this is simply an announcement that it will be a fourth season (so bring the current season to 30 and do another season of 24) but presented it a bit strangely. I mean the Suite Life announcement is a new season order.

Though I'm not used to THR making mistakes like that, so it is strange. I also checked variety.com but they have nothing yet.

I might actually think that they ordered thirty new episodes but didn't give details on what season they're going to be in.

[kezajones1]

or they only have a 3 season contract so why not make it a very very long season

[flutesinger262]

because thats never been done before and if it could be done believe me TV networks would be doing that to trap actors whose contracts are about to expire into doing editional episodes, lol

[Amandinha]

they ordered 30 additional episodes?:o as in addition to what they've already ordered. how does that make any sense, why not just order another season.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i726f0f4961487c61b73bad3b114c1275

Disney has ordered 30 additional episodes for the third season of "Hannah" as well as a 13-episode second season of "Suite Life."

"Hannah," which debuted in 2006, stars Miley Cyrus, Emily Osment, Jason Earles, Mitchel Musso, Billy Ray Cyrus and Moises Arias. For the fourth quarter, it ranks as the No. 1 basic cable series among kids 6-11 and tweens 9-14 and the No. 1 scripted series in total viewers.
30? WTF.
lol.
thats a whole season.
I'm hoping its on season 4 because all these episodes on season 3?
I mean it would take like FOREVER to end filming them?
thats weird.

[apogeum]

I think their contracts would also say something about the length of seasons, they usually think of everything in those contracts.

As I see there are two options.

*it's a misprint and they extended the current season to 30 episodes.
*they ordered thirty more episodes but didn't announce what season they would be in.

[flutesinger262]

does hollywood reporter usually make misprints?

[apogeum]

It's a site I daily check and as I said usually not, doesn't mean it can't happen. It happens to the best, it's impossible to run a flawless news service.

Though I usually find Variety a better news source, especially since THR screwed up their layout.

[flutesinger262]

well I was just wondering how trustworthy of a site hollywood reporter is? i'm guessing its a very trustworthy site?

[apogeum]

There are two prime news sources in Hollywood, The Hollywood Reporter and Variety. When they print it it's fact, they don't print rumors or gossip. You can't get more trustworthy.

Can't exclude typos of course.

[aprilrainer]

I don't think Disney is picking up 30 more episodes for this season. That's pretty unheard of to have that many episodes a season. I'm thinking it means a total of 30 episodes for season 3. Cause I don't think the cast actually makes that much money doing the show and they have other projects that they want to do and if they had to film an additional 30 more episodes this season, they would be filming till like next September. They've filmed about 13 episodes this season so far and they started filming at the beginning of August. So I don't think it means an additional 30 episodes but just means they'll film 30 episodes.

[flutesinger262]

well it says an additional 30 episodes, so etheir its a misprint and it was extended to 30 or disney ordered 30 more episodes. they don't have do them all as part of this season nor do they have to film them all at once without a break. they can take a break while say Miley tours and then come back and continue filming.
this would probably put HM over 100 episodes if it is really is 30 additional episodes, thats gonna be a pretty good pay day, lol. theres a lot of money in syndication

[aprilrainer]

How much money did Miley make last year from the actual tv show? It seemed like she made all her money from her tour and not much for the show.

[flutesinger262]

welll touring is always gonna be where the money is. you have to be a HUGE star on a huge hit to make big bucks off acting on TV, which Miley is but shes also on the disney channel which means shes probably not gonna get the huge numbers stars get on network TV. from June 2006-June 2007 she made 3.5 million but she released a CD and did a little bit of tour during that year,so thats no all just from HM and acting

[dontwalkaway]

i really hope there's some sense of closure on the show, like on the last episode she decided to come out as hannah or whatever.
i don't want the last one to just be a regular episode... ooh they should do a one-hour finale. but they won't.

[flutesinger262]

so E News is saying that disney did not say how many more episodes it ordered. its also said Miley is contractually obligated to participate in a 4th season should it be ordered. So Miley at least does have a contract through at least a 4th season

[Rockin_Miley]

greeaaatt

[mileyraycyrus]

i dont think there will be a fourth season. i dont even know how they're going to film and show 26 episodes before april first. (when the movie comes out)
the movie is about miley returning back to tennessee after life got too crazy because the world found out miley was hannah. they're not going to add a fourth season because then miley'll look too young in the movie. :(
miley wants to move on, especially because college is coming up...

[V-ball Baby 101]

No, I agree. They're going to get what they can.
they're going to milk this as long as they can.
Next to Hsm Hannah montana is thier biggest
product.
Ive always wonderd how
they would end it
By everyone finding her secert?
or what?

[flutesinger262]

i dont think there will be a fourth season. i dont even know how they're going to film and show 26 episodes before april first. (when the movie comes out)
the movie is about miley returning back to tennessee after life got too crazy because the world found out miley was hannah. they're not going to add a fourth season because then miley'll look too young in the movie. :(
miley wants to move on, especially because college is coming up...
they're not going to fit 30 episodes in before the movie, they're gonna fit in the necessary episodes that fit the movie and air the rest afterwards.

see according E News Miley has a contract with disney for a 4th season, so basically she doesn't have much of a choice if disney wants a fourth season, shes got to do a fourth season.

disney can't afford to let HM go and they dont want to let it go.

[j.ash]

Just to be clear, they just ordered 6 more season 3 episodes to be taped, bringing the total to 30 season 3 episodes, not 30 more episodes! The Hollywood reporter already corrected the typo of 30 more episodes:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i726f0f4961487c61b73bad3b114c1275

And c'mon disney, make it HD!!!!!

And hey, They will finish the series with the Hannah Montana Movie and how in the world can they squeeze a 4th season if they was a big thing happened in the movie.

[perilousgirl]

I think season 3 will be it. I have a growing feeling that Miley is feeling stifled under the weight of Disney - she could be more free to live her life the way she wants if she didn't have to answer to them in every little thing she does, wrong or right.
They will lose a lot when they lose her, but Disney might be able to sleep easier at night not worrying about what she's going to do or say next.

[flutesinger262]

Miley doesn't have a choice, she has a contract for the forth season. If disney wants a 4th season, shes has to do it.

as for disney, everything miley's said or done up to this point has only made her a bigger star and put more money in their pocket. as long as shes making them over a billion dollars in merchandising, has the number one scripted cable show and is selling records like crazy they're not gonna care what she does (with in reason). disney since Walt died is about making as much money as it can for as long as they can't, as long as their making money they really don't care, they'll release statements acting like they're upset or whatever because its what the public expects but as long as shes making them that money they're happy. I don't think there is any way disney's letting HM go after 3 seasons. This is disney were talking about they exploit things to no end, as long as their making as much money as they are off HM and as long as they have the cast tied down with a contract they're not going to let HM go.

[apogeum]

So it was a misprint after all, shame on THR.

I wouldn't try to make Walt Disney to be a saint, that chain smoking alcoholic nazi was everything but a saint ;).

But Disney is a business, of course they're going to try and money make of something. It would be bad business if they didn't. There is also no sign of Miley wanting to leave Disney, everything she does is Disney related, just like that Nicholas Sparks movie. While other people on the Disney Channel do other projects with other companies Miley simply doesn't.

If there is a fourth season I think it would get the support from Miley, she might have hinted that she might think it's time to end it but it's also a secure thing. Leaving Hannah behind all of a sudden would leave a bit of a gap, it's just a safe place to return back to. Not to mention it makes her a lot of money too.

[flutesinger262]

see a fourth season would put HM over 100 episodes and into syndication, theres a lot of money in that. she has a contract for 4th season and will probably make a lot of money off both 4th season and the show going ino syndication it doesn't make sense to fight disney on it. I think its Billy you have to worry about more then Miley but even with him if he wants to stay with Walt Disney Records he'll do what they want.
i think disney will pick it up for a fourth season it would be a bad business decision not to do it. You don't let that kind of franchise go especailly when its at its peak of popularity, which will probably happen around the HM: Movie.

[apogeum]

I wouldn't worry about Billy Ray too much on it, sure he has indicated that he thinks it should end but his role can be easily reduced. On some episodes you already have to wonder why he's even there. As long as Miley stays on the show he'll stay on the show even if it's not in as big a role as before. If he were to leave Disney he would just get back to his old rhythm of label hopping. Billy Ray might love his music and wants to do more in that, he also has to realize that his main career right now is Miley's dad. Which sucks for him but that's just a fact, without her he would still be playing small local clubs right now. He hasn't had a hit or anything in years, not even with Miley. Ready Set Don't Go only became somewhat of a successful single after they added Miley to it, at first it was Billy Ray solo and that didn't do too well. Miley isn't on the album version after all.

And they sometimes have to let go of franchises even if they don't want to. Like with Lizzie McGuire but Hilary Duff wanted more money, they didn't have an extended contract in place so it handed. That Hilary was fighting with Lalaine didn't help in that either. Though it's also easy enough to throw people of a show when things aren't going too well, like Nickelodeon did with Alexa Nikolas who couldn't get along with Jamie-Lynn Spears on Zoey 101.

And if Hannah Montana makes it over 100 episodes I guess it would easily become one of the longest running Disney Channel shows ever. With the current season lengths I would guess we'd get a total of 110 episodes. Just imagine, a Hannah Montana marathon would take over two days in that case and you wouldn't be able to sleep or have bathroom breaks.

Sometimes however it can also be a bad business decision to continue something for too long. It might be a weird example but the Sci-Fi Channel decided to renew Stargate SG-1 after season seven to make it ten. It was the most successful science fiction show in history after all (that's right, not Star Trek) and it was popular as ever but those three extra seasons ruined the show. I just hope that won't happen to Hannah Montana. Could also name other examples in that but that's just one that illustrates it quite well.

We've already seen how much Miley has changed on Hannah Montana over the last 2 1/2 years, doing a fourth season will mean that Hannah Montana will be extended to a run time of almost five years. Just imagine what you'll see when you put Miley from the first episode next to Miley in the last episode. It might not even feel like Hannah Montana anymore at that point and that's a huge risk Disney would be taking on the show.

Some people will also say that it will put the Hannah Montana brand on Miley forever, in a way that has already happened but in Miley's case I'm not too worried about it. She's already shown that she can do other things and will do other things. Though she should be careful not to make the same mistakes Hilary Duff made in the long run.

And this post is way too long to make barely half an hour after you get out of bed.

Edit: it's been quite a few hours that I posted this but seeing I'm the last one to post in this topic:

Variety has now also posted the story (so that other main news source about Hollywood business), so it really is only six episodes at the moment.

The Disney Channel (http://www.variety.com/profiles/Company/main/2009271/The%20Disney%20Channel.html?dataSet=1) has ordered additional third-season episodes of hit tween series "Hannah Montana," (http://www.variety.com/profiles/TVSeries/main/173918/Hannah%20Montana.html?dataSet=1) while committing to a second season of frosh skein "The Suite Life on Deck."

Order for six more installments of "Hannah Montana" brings the season three total to 30 episodes. Series ranks as basic cable's top draw for kids 6-11 and tweens 9-14. Premiering in September, meanwhile, "The Suite Life" ranks second in kids 6-11 and third in tweens 9-14. Cabler has ordered 13 additional episodes of that skein for season two.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117996711.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

[mileyraycyrus]

they're not going to fit 30 episodes in before the movie, they're gonna fit in the necessary episodes that fit the movie and air the rest afterwards.

see according E News Miley has a contract with disney for a 4th season, so basically she doesn't have much of a choice if disney wants a fourth season, shes got to do a fourth season.

disney can't afford to let HM go and they dont want to let it go.

oh!! thanks for clarifying.
so are the episodes after the movie going to be about Miley in tennessee?

and you're positive about this info in this quoted post, right?
because now I'm really excited!!! :))

[hotncleverchik]

I can't wait for the movie and new series to begin here!!

[Rockin_Miley]

Eaxactly. They have a winner right now and what to drag it out as long as they can. Jonas will probably last awhile, but Sonny looks like a bomb.

Unless you went to a taping, it sounds like a bomb, technically.
But very many people that went to tapings say otherwise.