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flutesinger262
05-27-2008, 11:01 PM
this article is insanely long but its got some good points, so if you have the time read it.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/celebrity/la-et-brief28-2008may28,0,2650361.story
Paparazzi have their lenses on Miley Cyrus




By Rachel Abramowitz, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
May 28, 2008

How much is Miley Cyrus’ (http://topics.latimes.com/entertainment/people/miley-cyrus) first kiss worth?

Anywhere from $30,000 to $150,000, depending on which paparazzo you ask. A photo's price could be higher if her designated love object happened to be camera-worthy like a Jonas brother, or Shia LaBeouf, not just some cute Kevin Federline-esque wannabe.

Yes, the paps have discovered the "Hannah Montana" star, forming a scrum of ferocious men-dogs who camp outside her North Hollywood home. They follow her shopping at the Malibu shops, lurk around her lunch spots, accompany her to church, riding her bike, and then pop up again down in Nashville, where's she's recently gone to shoot the "Hannah Montana" movie. No one in the Cyrus camp (not Miley, pa Billy Ray Cyrus, her publicist, or her agent) would comment, though one person close to the star notes that the phenomenon started around February, when Cyrus returned to Los Angeles after finishing her world tour.
Let's repeat one salient fact about Miley: She's all of 15.

She can't drink, drive or serve her country, but she can provide a profitable stream of income to those devoted to chronicling her every move?

Every milestone in her young life is going to have some fairly concrete monetized value -- if the photographer can get the shot. But will all the attention ultimately corrode the very wholesomeness that makes Miley so popular? It doesn't appear that the 24/7 spotlight has helped the mental health of such fore-gals as Lindsay Lohan and Britney Spears.

Indeed, it's their unseemly public antics that have stoked the appetite for Miley, the paragon of Disney-branded civility and niceness.

"She's much more attractive than Britney Spears," says Frank Griffin of the Bauer-Griffin paparazzi agency. "It's much more of a success story. [Consumers] want to see success. They don't want to see failure. If someone famous falls on their face, you have to report it . . . but Miley is going to steal all of Britney's thunder. Kids want to see her. They don't want to see ripped fishnets and fear and mascara-streaked cheeks."

"I think one of the reasons she's so popular is after all the train wreck girls, the Britneys, there's a move toward all-American clean living," says Gary Morgan, CEO of Splash News, another paparazzi behemoth. "Everyone is looking for a moral teenager, someone they can look up to."

To François Navarre, the proprietor of the X17 photo agency, the leader in candid celebrity shots, the market for Miley really began to pick up after the notorious Vanity Fair incident in which Annie Leibovitz photographed the teenager seemingly nude covered by a sheet. "She's started to sell more," says Navarre. "Now the pictures are going for a higher price. It used to be $300" for a shot, "and now it's $2,000 for a picture. It has to be a nice picture. I have a couple of guys working on her. It's not like Britney [Spears], where we have 24/7 coverage, but we are watching her. If she goes out of town, we try to follow her."



The Cyrus conundrum

I tend not to feel too sorry for celebrities and their paparazzi issues. They're usually grown-ups, and they did sign up for a life of fame and fortune. Anyone who shops at Kitson or eats at the Ivy is courting attention. Admittedly, I did think Britney Spears should be allowed to have her nervous breakdown in peace, and I'd prefer that the LAPD use its limited resources catching gangbangers and drug dealers rather than accompanying distressed pop stars on jaunts to the psychiatric hospital.

I am also ambivalent about the tsunami of baby pictures hitting the tabloids. As a mom, I'm all for leaving Shiloh and Maddox Jolie-Pitt alone -- it's not their fault their parents are world-famous movie stars. Yet I must confess, I do love those pictures of her Royal Adorableness Suri Cruise. I'm ashamed to admit I'd sooner pay 14 bucks to see Suri toddling around her playhouse than watch her dad star in "Valkyrie."

And I have a good sense of the scary lengths photographers are willing to go to get the shot. Apple Martin (the progeny of Gwyneth Paltrow and Coldplay singer Chris Martin) attended my son's preschool for a couple of months. On occasion, a throng of 3- and 4-year-olds tumbled out of the gate, away from their mommies' outstretched arms into a big scary photog, who'd happily mow them over to get closer to Apple. And there was the write-up of the kids' school concert in one of the tabloids. Creepy. Definitely invasive. I wish Us magazine would stop feeding me this kiddie crack. I'm resolving right now to go cold turkey.

Miley Cyrus presents a whole other conundrum. At some level, she and/or her parents want the media spotlight. She's a kid, but she's also a public figure, one of the most popular pop stars in the world, who according to Parade magazine earned more than $18 million last year.

She's product for the Walt Disney Co. She's product for Vanity Fair. She has a clothing line. She's writing her memoirs. She hawks milk. She was invited to the Academy Awards, although she's only acted in a small part in only one movie (Tim Burton's "Big Fish"). Every commercial enterprise wants to cash in on the Miley magic, so why should the tabloid press be any different?

Still, the nonstop attention can't be good for her developing psyche.

Blair Berk is a defense lawyer to the stars, the one Spears and Lohan have tapped for their legal woes. She's also helped prosecutors go after reckless paparazzi.

"The problem with the paparazzi is they literally and figuratively take away your ability to be off camera," says Berk. "You're never offstage. When you're walking down a sidewalk and there are 50 cameras, it's an entirely artificial existence. It seems to me, particularly with teenagers, there's already so much self-consciousness. To force that on children who may be precocious -- but that has nothing to do with how emotionally mature they are. I think it leads to disaster, frankly. From my perspective, during those formative years, the whole point is to be able to screw up and make wrong choices and have failures and learn how to deal with that and how to form character. To do that without any privacy is really unfair."

Not to mention the pressure of having conglomerates like Disney relying on a young performer never to break character.

Judging from some of the Miley Cyrus footage on the X17 website, the teenager handles her throng of photographers with friendly aplomb. She's also always accompanied by her mother, Tish (which is a different kind of nightmare for your average 15-year-old).

Still, an insider in the Cyrus camp says there have been occasions when her father, Billy Ray, has gotten upset about the paparazzo's growing ferocity, and the family has noticed how the photographers try to ingratiate themselves with their 15-year-old target. "They try to befriend her. They buy her coffee. They buy her dinner. It's despicable how they try to take an advantage of her," says the source close to the Cyrus family.



She's coming of age

Of course, Cyrus isn't in the stratosphere of Angelina Jolie, Jennifer Aniston and Katie Holmes, the holy trio of 2008 for the tabloid press. Cyrus has a largely teenage audience rather than a broad fan base.

What's also saved Cyrus is the seeming benign nature of her day-to-day existence. She's relatively boring -- at least by tabloid standards.

"You're not going to get cocaine-snorting, addled teen queens, are you? You're not going to find her in a clinch with some young dude," says Griffin. "You're stuck with her buying a new puppy or going out with her dad. There's been a lot of pictures of the tour. The first kiss is going to be worth a lot of money."

"Her mom is constantly with her," adds Navarre. "Which is different from ['High School Musical' stars] Vanessa Hudgens and Ashley Tisdale. They're always without their moms, whereas Miley is always with hers. Miley's really monitored, really watched and controlled by her parents, whereas the other girls are driving their Porsches and going to stores by themselves.

"She has people waiting for the moment she starts to be less traditional," Navarre says. "It's going to come. It's natural. Any teenager. Sure, she's going to have a boyfriend. Even if People and Us start to buy her, it's still the beginning (of the Miley Cyrus phenomenon). But it's going to come very fast. It's going to be in the coming months . . . as soon as her mom lets her go out by herself. It's going to start to be interesting."

Rockin_Miley
05-27-2008, 11:02 PM
Im sorry, But I cant read all that. Summary? :P

flutesinger262
05-27-2008, 11:12 PM
it debates wheather the paparazzi should be following around a minor, talks about her dad getting pissed off at the paparazzi and that he feels as if they try and take advantage of her(like they try and by her coffe and dinner), and how every milestone in her life is going to have a heavy monitary(sp?) value(the first time they get a pic of her and a boyfriend making out it could cost an estimate $150,000). Its talks about when is too young for them to be following her and how shes the most appealing star out there right now because people are sick and tired of train wrecks/failures and want to see someone whose wholesome and got good values and successful.

Rockin_Miley
05-27-2008, 11:13 PM
it debates wheather the paparazzi should be following around a minor, talks about her dad getting pissed off at the paparazzi and that he feels as if they try and take advantage of her(like they try and by her coffe and dinner), and how every milestone in her life is going to have a heavy monitary(sp?) value(the first time they get a pic of her and a boyfriend making out it could cost an estimate $150,000). Its tooks about when is too young for them to be following her and how shes the most appealing star out there right now because people are sick and tired of train wrecks/failures and want to see someone whose wholesome and got good values and successful.

OOOO. Thanks. :)

Miley Cyrus All The Way
05-27-2008, 11:14 PM
Wow! ugghhhh read the racy photo thread i commented on there u will recive my opinion!

Miley Cyrus All The Way
05-27-2008, 11:15 PM
Oh and thanx 4 the summary it helps

D.H.C
05-27-2008, 11:17 PM
i hope they go to Jail i hope the stupid Papparzis figure out that thing called Stalking Is Illegal and you can go to Jail

Miley Cyrus All The Way
05-27-2008, 11:21 PM
i hope they go to Jail i hope the stupid Papparzis figure out that thing called Stalking Is Illegal and you can go to Jail
Actully some paparazzi r being nice and avoiding the pics questionz!

flutesinger262
05-27-2008, 11:33 PM
it doesn't matter they're still stalking her. They camp outside her house in LA 24/7, follow her into her church,etc. If they were anyother person from the street, they would have been arrest long ago.

smiley-miley-fan
05-27-2008, 11:34 PM
I agree that things will start to get interseting once her mom stops going everwhere with her and she goes out with a guy lol. I think it is really stupid though how these guys make their living off of practically stalking a 15 year old. I hope that it doesn't get to her like it has gotten to other stars. But on the other hand, i'm selfish and miss those daily candids and getting to see her outfit and what she was up to lol.

D.H.C
05-27-2008, 11:36 PM
I really think they should just leave Celebs alone!
but if that picture of her is taken they would have to be in the house or in he yard wich is illegal both ways!

smiley-miley-fan
05-27-2008, 11:36 PM
it doesn't matter they're still stalking her. They camp outside her house in LA 24/7, follow her into her church,etc. If they were anyother person from the street, they would have been arrest long ago.

ya, fallowing her into church is crossing the line. I mean, taking her picture while she is at coffee bean or going to a popular place to eat or shopping is one thing, but trying to get into her church??????? not good.

flutesinger262
05-27-2008, 11:46 PM
I don't know what they hoped to accomplish by filming her in church but they somehow got in there. Her security guy was even like leave her alone, go away this is a holy place.
They once almost trampled over Noah. They should just leave Miley and all stars alone.
Miley's been without her mom a few times but she always has a security guy and her publicist with her when her moms not around. I don't think your going to be getting Miley parentless shots for awhile, Miley says they have a year of film for 3rd season of HM, so stating in fall she'll always be with her dad.

Amandinha
05-28-2008, 12:14 AM
I can't read it all today cause its already late but I read the beginning, gosh is insane how a pic of Miley kissing a guy can be worth 150,000 dolars.
Getting into the church is definately crossing the line, its a holy place, its another thing than following her to Coffee Bean.

Matty
05-28-2008, 12:22 AM
Read it all lol, "she's relatively boring". :P

D.H.C
05-28-2008, 12:25 AM
Song To Paprazi
You Guys Are Creepy
You Guyz Are Creepy
You Guyz Are Creepy
Dont Deny!! :))
i hope they leave her alone!

krrristin
05-28-2008, 12:26 AM
That sucks... I hope the best for her.
The last the paps need to do is destroy the life of a 15 year old.

I did like the following quotes though:

"She's much more attractive than Britney Spears," says Frank Griffin of the Bauer-Griffin paparazzi agency. "It's much more of a success story. [Consumers] want to see success. They don't want to see failure. If someone famous falls on their face, you have to report it . . . but Miley is going to steal all of Britney's thunder. Kids want to see her. They don't want to see ripped fishnets and fear and mascara-streaked cheeks."

"I think one of the reasons she's so popular is after all the train wreck girls, the Britneys, there's a move toward all-American clean living," says Gary Morgan, CEO of Splash News, another paparazzi behemoth. "Everyone is looking for a moral teenager, someone they can look up to."

"You're not going to get cocaine-snorting, addled teen queens, are you? You're not going to find her in a clinch with some young dude," says Griffin. "You're stuck with her buying a new puppy or going out with her dad. There's been a lot of pictures of the tour. The first kiss is going to be worth a lot of money."

"Her mom is constantly with her," adds Navarre. "Which is different from ['High School Musical' stars] Vanessa Hudgens and Ashley Tisdale. They're always without their moms, whereas Miley is always with hers. Miley's really monitored, really watched and controlled by her parents, whereas the other girls are driving their Porsches and going to stores by themselves.

^^ means that her parents are keeping her someone safe with the paps.

flutesinger262
05-28-2008, 12:35 AM
"The problem with the paparazzi is they literally and figuratively take away your ability to be off camera," says Berk. "You're never offstage. When you're walking down a sidewalk and there are 50 cameras, it's an entirely artificial existence. It seems to me, particularly with teenagers, there's already so much self-consciousness. To force that on children who may be precocious -- but that has nothing to do with how emotionally mature they are. I think it leads to disaster, frankly. From my perspective, during those formative years, the whole point is to be able to screw up and make wrong choices and have failures and learn how to deal with that and how to form character. To do that without any privacy is really unfair."

ITA with this statement, and thats why i think that the children in this business should be off limits until they turn 18.

SupaStaRrMiley92
05-28-2008, 12:50 AM
The quotes from this article basically admit the reasons why miley cyrus's "racy" photos are so blown out of proportion: because she's living a more wholesome life than those teen stars before her.
they can't get any other dirt from her so why not take something and make it seem illegal?
kind of off topic, i know. the article was very interesting.
but it just goes to show how lame their lives are, if all they can do is follow around celebrities, no matter how young, trying to get them to make mistakes so that they can make more money.
pathetic.

Yero34
05-28-2008, 12:55 AM
I still can't believe they followed her into the church. Did they think she was going to smoke a joint or something? Man that's dumb. I think once she gets back from Tennessee, it's just going to start all over again.

flutesinger262
05-28-2008, 01:08 AM
^^ they're there with her in Tennesse, its just shes usually with her dad and hes not as nice about it as her mom is. I saw a paparazzi picture from Nashville with Miley and her mom out for lunch yesterday.
I don't think it will be much of a problem when she gets back to LA, she'll be working on 3rd season of HM and with her dad all the time, they tend to leave her alone when Billy Ray's with her.

Yero34
05-28-2008, 01:12 AM
True. He is rather protective of her. That was an awesome article. I love(note sarcasm) how the paparazzi can camp outside her house, because technically, they aren't on her property.

flutesinger262
05-28-2008, 01:19 AM
they use to camp on her property, thats why they moved in the begin of the year because the property they have now is completely gated. They had to move because both fans and paparazzi would get on to the property, looking into the house, taking pics of the kids in the yard, ringing the door bell stuff like that. So they moved to a house that was completely gated and kept people out. At least thats what i heard Billy Ray say somewhere.

Yero34
05-28-2008, 01:22 AM
Wow. I didn't know about people peaking in windows and stuff. Man that's scary. Children really should be off limits to paparazzi. The church video was really scary. There were just so many of them.

apogeum
05-28-2008, 02:59 AM
I really hate that French X17 prick, saw a news report on him on TV here once. He really isn't a nice guy and doesn't care about what happens to those celebrities. The fact that he has a "couple of guys" on her proves that.

I see it like this really, they are allowed to take her pictures when she's out in public. But they should do so when she's out in Beverly Hills or wherever and not stalk her to do it. Despite the paparazzi using the argument that to be a good paparazzi you need to be somewhat of a stalker.

And the paparazzi should never limit someone in moving around, though with Miley they seem to be avoiding it when there are thirty of them it's impossible.

karlmueller
05-28-2008, 12:04 PM
Not that I don't like viewing Miley photos but I really think that they should ask her first for approval before taking / publishing any photos!

Even I don't like it when sb takes photos / videos of me without asking. I don't like the feeling that I could be on the Internet doing kinda stupid things without even knowing that it's in the WWW.

But as long as you are just a normal person and nobody knows you it's not quite a desaster if sb puts stupid photos / vids of you on the WWW but when you are popular like Miley and everybody knows you every stupid video / photo that appear in the public could destroy your reputation and / or career so I really think it's very rude to publish pictures of Miley without her approval to do so!

And as for following her 24/7:

I think they should only follow here as long she feels comfortable with that when she says please leave me alone I want some privacy they should really leave her alone she has a right to have her privacy like everybody else does!

Miley is really close to her fans and gives them a lot. She talks to fans backstage, she signs autographs for fans even when they just run into her at the street and she even takes the time to chat with her fans on Mileyworld!

But I really think when she wants some privacy she should really get it and those paparazzi should respect this!

Miley Cyrus All The Way
05-28-2008, 07:06 PM
it doesn't matter they're still stalking her. They camp outside her house in LA 24/7, follow her into her church,etc. If they were anyother person from the street, they would have been arrest long ago.
ya that iz true but....

Miley Cyrus All The Way
05-28-2008, 07:07 PM
they use to camp on her property, thats why they moved in the begin of the year because the property they have now is completely gated. They had to move because both fans and paparazzi would get on to the property, looking into the house, taking pics of the kids in the yard, ringing the door bell stuff like that. So they moved to a house that was completely gated and kept people out. At least thats what i heard Billy Ray say somewhere.
wow that bad?